The WMC has stated they are different people, 3 different people to be exact. Wasn't Randonee just asking for snowmobilers to stay out of the wilderness? I didn't think there was anything more to it then that?
Nope, Wenatchee Mountain Coalition..
Now that is a very good point indeed.
It isn't about being PC, it is about being respectful. Are you able to disagree with him without being derogatory about it?
Keep them away from talking and engaging snowmobilers and continue with what they do best, removing riding areas from snowmobile use.
Isn't that because it is important? Isn't that because people are actually discussing things here? He said she said? Maybe you need to go back and read through most of the threads, all 6 of them. There is some good information in there, between the retarded replies from snowmobilers about "just share".
I think when this gets to the "Legitimate" stage, then it will be too late for snowmobilers.
A few individuals that have support from large organizations that has the ability to snowball right over us. It doesn't matter if the arguments are weak, that won't stop thousands of skiers from agreeing with them.
Who are you to judge what is a waste and what isn't with OUR time. For the most part, the conversation was respectful on both sides and was surprisingly well done for a non-motorized advocate coming over here and trying to engage snowmobilers.
What you don't understand is that without WMC, we wouldn't be organizing to try and increase the effort to stop wilderness incursions in these areas. Without WMC we wouldn't be discussion this and learning about this for the last month.
He stated he was climbing Mt. Adams this week... Tin foil hat time?
How many people have been posting as WMC? Do you know? Or are you guessing that the three people take turns posting on the interweb?
Yah, look how well that treated Randonee? Transparency? Do we deserve it? Can we be trusted with it? Or is it our right?...:face-icon-small-dis
They have stated the purpose many times, 3 issues. Specific land for non motorized, buffers for wilderness and to ease enforcing wilderness. Stated over and over ad nausium. They have stated many times they are trying to get what they want and we should try and get what we want, in discussions with the FS. Why is this all of a sudden a surprise?
IF? You kidding me with an IF? I don't think you get the big issue that is going on here..
More than normal agitation?:face-icon-small-ton
Yep, you said overly agitated. It just seemed funny you had to put the overly in there, as if I come off agitated all the time (normal) and I stepped it up to overly...
WMC has stated many times that they are 3 people.
I think you need to take a closer look at rights.. You can't make rights illegal can you? Your statement implies that you can..
Congress and the FS have already stated that open use on public lands is not a real concept. You can not do whatever you want to on FS lands. Why don't you understand this concept? This thought that you can do whatever you want on the FS lands is a misnomer and seems to be used as justification for a lot of snowmobilers attitudes on this issue. IT IS WRONG!! If you don't like it, tough man, but that is the way the land is currently managed.
