Ouch! My back hurts thinking about it! :face-icon-small-sho
New 2012 1100T 162 ***671 lbs*** full of gas!
- Thread starter Ken Climb
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what do the yamahas weigh without turbos stock
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I know a 153" nytro is 601 full of gas.
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keep in mind the 1100 carries more fuel...
3 gallons more right?
Wow ,When you get stuck you will have No frien:face-icon-small-frods
Yup, M1100t = 10.6 gallons of gas
Nytro MTX SE 153 = 601lbs but only 7.4 gallons of gas
Gas = 6.175lbs per gallon 6.175 X 3.2 = 19.76
So...
601lbs + 19.76 = 620.76 to eliminate fuel capacity as a variable.
I have no idea what the 162 length of the Nytro weighs.
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I think I will be riding with the lighter 2 strokes! I see more lessons need to be learned. (already learned mine)
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Guess what! Who Cares what it weighs. There were some guys who weighed a turbo nytro with lightweight front and rear suspension full of fuel ready to ride.
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2008 162" nytro mcx turbo, timbersled front and rear, lightweight seat.
657.4lbs.
IT doesn't really matter. The timbersled front and rear easily drop 20 lbs and the seat probally another 5. Minus the 20+lbs of gas. So that makes it 700lbs ready to ride without the lightweight parts and 10 gallons of fuel.
To that I say good job arctic cat!!!! I can drop 15lbs to bring it to the weight of a nytro the has $9000 worth of aftermarket parts on it.
And then the important thing it has better geometry! I will be interesting to see what skinz concept a-arms do for the nytro this year but they are another $900.
So in conclusion.
Cat:
Lighter
handles better
$800 to increase hp by 40.
Still smiling even though I am crabby that my sled is not here yet.
Can't compare this sled to a 2 stroke because it is not. If that is what you wanted should have bought a 2 stroke. I will compare it to the nytro because that is the the comparable sled.
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2008 162" nytro mcx turbo, timbersled front and rear, lightweight seat.
657.4lbs.
IT doesn't really matter. The timbersled front and rear easily drop 20 lbs and the seat probally another 5. Minus the 20+lbs of gas. So that makes it 700lbs ready to ride without the lightweight parts and 10 gallons of fuel.
To that I say good job arctic cat!!!! I can drop 15lbs to bring it to the weight of a nytro the has $9000 worth of aftermarket parts on it.
And then the important thing it has better geometry! I will be interesting to see what skinz concept a-arms do for the nytro this year but they are another $900.
So in conclusion.
Cat:
Lighter
handles better
$800 to increase hp by 40.
Still smiling even though I am crabby that my sled is not here yet.
Can't compare this sled to a 2 stroke because it is not. If that is what you wanted should have bought a 2 stroke. I will compare it to the nytro because that is the the comparable sled.
I learned my lesson as well...I've owned 4 two-strokes in the last 5 years and the combined mileage on ALL of them (prior to blowing up on me and ruining my trip(s)) is less than the mileage I put on my Nytro last year alone!
I've got zero loyalty to Yamaha but I'm 100% loyal to 4-strokes now. Operating cost is a LOT lower and maintenance cost is almost NULL. The 1100t is a winner in my book
4-strokes aren't for everyone, plain and simple, but it's the ONLY solution for me.
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Not nocking the sled. Beautiful design and it will go. I was the same at 22 and 27 yrs old. Have fun boys, just don't expect the group to be around when you get burried in the deep. Seen it, done it. I have seen a many finally sell the heavy for the light. Even the biggest and the best get older and smarter. I got tired waisting my day and my back on someone elses decision. We went to 800 turbo. jmo
What 700lb 4 strokes were around in the 1980's??
jkMaybe one day we will have our cake, and eat it too! Until then I refuse to consider a top end rebuild between 1500-2000 miles "preventative maintenance" haha!
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I just use one of these http://snowjacker.com/ to get my 2 stroke unstuck without any help,
so it should work most of the time on my M1100T without any help
so it should work most of the time on my M1100T without any help
LMAO
EVERYONE cares what they weigh. That is why these threads are so popular right now.
This will be my 10th season riding a 4 stroke mountain sled (12,000 plus miles) and I have been on this and other forums the whole time talking 4 stroke sleds. Every year all I heard was how heavy my Yamaha was, how I was an idiot for not riding a two stroke, there is no way to start it when the battery dies, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc. etc.
So now that AC has a 4 stroke that weighs more than a Yamaha, and this season weight doesn't matter? You guys are nuts.
Take off the green blinders, I have my blue ones off. Weight does matter - I was hoping the cat would be 30 lbs lighter than my Yamaha so that Yamaha would try to shed some more weight. I guess we'll have to wait for Doo or Poo to put out a lightweight 4 stroke.
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He guess what. . . I have been riding a yamaha turbo the past two years. . .
And you are OK upgrading to a heavier sled?
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Read my post above. . . This sled is not heavier. . . MCX nytro with timbersled skid and front suspension and lightweight seat ready to ride is 657lbs. Cat is 663 according the the rtr sticker on the tunnel. . . You can be sure this is a certified weight.
All I am saying is I am confident that better geometry then the nytro has with even the same weight will be great. I will be more tired at the end of the day but my smile on my face will be worth it.
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What 700lb 4 strokes were around in the 1980's??
Maybe one day we will have our cake, and eat it too! Until then I refuse to consider a top end rebuild between 1500-2000 miles "preventative maintenance" haha!
The point was weight, not 4 strokes. And yes we had 670 lbs sleds until we got smarter. Do your research on when the first high hp turbos came out. They were not just invented. We ran a 120 hp 440 ice racer in the 80s and won because of power to weight. Have you learned about power to weight yet?:face-icon-small-win
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Beleive it or not it is not a race. . . Or a competition. I will ride what I like. And I like thumpers. And thumpers without turbos are not good in the mountains. . So I will take a turbo with mine. . . Even if it means it is going to be 650lbs. I am not worried about the weight. . . believe it or not. . .
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