2017 axys with 3000 miles

Iowa_assault · Aug 13, 2017

I have a 2017 axys rmk 155" 2.6" with 3000 miles on it.

I havent done too much maintenance on the sled and I was wondering what you guys would recommend at this point with this many miles?

Should I throw in a new top end? Im only keeping the sled one more season and it looks like ill only put 1000 miles on this season.

Anyone else with this many miles on theirs?

Red Mtn · Aug 14, 2017

Miles do not really matter. How many hours are on the motor? I am pretty sure they are meant for 250 hours before a rebuild. Being from the Midwest, your riding is different and you typically put on a LOT more miles than pure mtn riding. My all mtn ridden sled averages about 10-11 miles per running hour. so after 100 hour my sled only has 1000-1100 miles. Yours could easily have 3000 miles on the same 100 hours of use. If is was a lot of trail riding you probably haven't worn it out too bad. Compression check will tell you if you need a rebuild though.

Yaeger34 · Aug 14, 2017

I am always a little leary just trusting a compression test. If it was mine I would probably put new pistons in personally. Spend $300 and know you will have a good winter. It could save $3000 grand and being out that riding time. Same goes for my 250f dirtbikes. I could probably squeeze 70 or 80 hours out but put a piston in at 40 or 50 hours, rather spend the $200 to have the confidence in my motor. Plus I always think about it locking up on the face of a jump or something that could cause some serious issues.

just my 2 cents

Red Mtn · Aug 14, 2017

Top end is going to cost a LOT more than $300, just sayin'.

Personally I would never bother with anything less than an indy dan rebuild on a Polaris. Ride it until it blows. These are not the best built motors from the factory. My first one shelled out at 113 hours and after the first ride the second one showed 107 compression both sides. Truly the best way to go is a quality built motor from Dan. Yes $3500 is a lot but at least it will last and the people who built it will actually stand behind it, unlike the original manufacturer.

Wheel House Motorsports · Aug 14, 2017

Red Mtn said:
Top end is going to cost a LOT more than $300, just sayin'.

Personally I would never bother with anything less than an indy dan rebuild on a Polaris. Ride it until it blows. These are not the best built motors from the factory. My first one shelled out at 113 hours and after the first ride the second one showed 107 compression both sides. Truly the best way to go is a quality built motor from Dan. Yes $3500 is a lot but at least it will last and the people who built it will actually stand behind it, unlike the original manufacturer.

$300 is about right for pistons and gaskets.

Honestly, if you have warranty, ride it till it pops. Otherwise then your on the hook if you have it opened up.

I would be curious what your milage to engine hour ratio is vs a mtn sledder.

Indy_500 · Aug 14, 2017

I would be curious as well how you pounded out 3k miles on a mountain sled. But at the same time you guys can't lump someone who lived in the Midwest and trail riders in the same group. 75% of my riding is done in the Midwest in the UP. My riding days always consist of about 6 hrs of riding, and I ALWAYS put far less miles on in the UP as I do out west...

tmberro · Aug 14, 2017

Wheel House Motorsports said:
$300 is about right for pistons and gaskets.

Honestly, if you have warranty, ride it till it pops. Otherwise then your on the hook if you have it opened up.

I would be curious what your milage to engine hour ratio is vs a mtn sledder.

How? OEM pistons alone will run you $200+ each.

Wheel House Motorsports · Aug 14, 2017

tmberro said:
How? OEM pistons alone will run you $200+ each.

Right, I forget not everyone is a WPS dealer and doesn't get a major parts break at the local shop.:juggle:

bkpa · Aug 14, 2017

Indy_500 said:
I would be curious as well how you pounded out 3k miles on a mountain sled.

I'm assuming it's a rental sled that he bought.

FriscoProx · Aug 14, 2017

If you have at least a year of warranty left, I'd put the $300 or so towards rebuilding the clutches and wouldn't touch the engine.

Yaeger34 · Aug 15, 2017

If you blew up a motor due to piston failure and that kind of miles would polaris really do anything. I figure they will screw you every chance they get. And if I remember right reading warranty it doesn't cover ring failure, etc.

sno*jet · Aug 15, 2017

pull exhuast valves for cleaning and look at the pistons. if you cant see them there pull the exhuast. if pistons are scratched up bad you know what to do.

Teth-Air · Aug 15, 2017

sno*jet said:
pull exhuast valves for cleaning and look at the pistons. if you cant see them there pull the exhuast. if pistons are scratched up bad you know what to do.

solid advice

Jaynelson · Aug 15, 2017

Indy_500 said:
I would be curious as well how you pounded out 3k miles on a mountain sled. But at the same time you guys can't lump someone who lived in the Midwest and trail riders in the same group. 75% of my riding is done in the Midwest in the UP. My riding days always consist of about 6 hrs of riding, and I ALWAYS put far less miles on in the UP as I do out west...

We have a couple guys that stack similar mileage on in a winter...all mountain. Just need to not work much in the winter, really like riding, and be able to shell out some serious $$ for gas, oil, maintenance parts, truck gas, etc....all of which really ad up with that many miles. Also need a spouse/kid(s) that are on board and/or don't exist. But definitely have seen it....would be fun (in a different life for me).

Iowa_assault · Aug 15, 2017

Its been about 50% trail miles and 50% mountain miles. My warranty ends this December.

bkpa · Aug 16, 2017

Iowa_assault said:
Its been about 50% trail miles and 50% mountain miles. My warranty ends this December.

Impressive!

How's the track holding up?

AndrettiDog · Aug 16, 2017

sno*jet said:
pull exhuast valves for cleaning and look at the pistons. if you cant see them there pull the exhuast. if pistons are scratched up bad you know what to do.

I thought this was bad because of the electronic setup associated with the electronic valves.

I don't really buy into waiting until the motor pops. Sometimes I'm 30 miles away from the truck. That's a long tow out. Why not address a high mileage motor and do the top end? If no maintenance has been done, I'd bet the clutch is in dire need of some bushing work.

sno*jet · Aug 17, 2017

AndrettiDog said:
I thought this was bad because of the electronic setup associated with the electronic valves.

could be; hence the latter part of my quote.
cant see other side of the piston but can see a lot of cylinder wall and get a pretty good idea on what to do. jmo.

AndrettiDog · Aug 17, 2017

sno*jet said:
could be; hence the latter part of my quote.
cant see other side of the piston but can see a lot of cylinder wall and get a pretty good idea on what to do. jmo.

Yep, that would give you a good idea of a small side of the pistons. I think I would just pull the mono block. It's really not that hard. I'm guessing at 3k, that the rings should be replaced at the least. Like I said above, i don't want to worry about losing a motor 30+ miles away from the truck. My luck, it would be on a 4' powder day.

xmk1080 · Aug 18, 2017

I would also remove the primary clutch and check crankshaft runout.

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