chain oil change help?

Tahoepow · Jun 9, 2019

Hello,

Changing my chain case oil in my alpha right now. I'm counting 13 bolts size torx-30 to remove. PITA and then somehow get the oil res and chain case thing outta the way to clean the chain/case area. Some of the bolts are hiding in the bottom of the case too with little access holes. ?WTF?? I've got it drained. Thinking about just filling it back up with new fluid and forgetting the removal and cleaning inside the case. I know that's not the best option but my word, what ass pain to remove. What has you guys done? Thanks

ndfb35 · Jun 9, 2019

It is a pain, and no real easy way to get it out without tearing the plastics apart. This is one of the many benefits of a belt drive, but if that's not in the cards, I would only do a full cleaning once a year or every 1000 miles or so and just swap fuild. That is your call though.

sno*jet · Jun 9, 2019

what's the point of cleaning the insides? it has a drain plug. like your trucks transfercase.

Tahoepow · Jun 10, 2019

I know right?? I always cleaned the inside and inspected my chain/case on my summit, but ski-doo design allowed you to do that with reasonable effort. This Arctic chain case is like comparing removing an oil pan to change the oil on your car. I'm planning on filling with new oil today and avoiding the case removal.

kiliki · Jun 10, 2019

pull the drain plug and refill ever 1k and don't worry about the rest. with the new team chain it hasn't been a problem.

jakey-boy · Jun 10, 2019

Only reason I would ever pull that cover off is to put a belt drive on. If I am that worried about what is going on there then I would have a belt drive already. Drain/Refill/ride. Now if I saw something concerning after draining I may investigate by pulling the cover but I guarantee its not going back on. Its belt drive at that point lol

kanedog · Jun 10, 2019

Tahoepow said:
I know right?? I always cleaned the inside and inspected my chain/case on my summit, but ski-doo design allowed you to do that with reasonable effort. This Arctic chain case is like comparing removing an oil pan to change the oil on your car. I'm planning on filling with new oil today and avoiding the case removal.

It's the same except the cat chaincase is messier than a car oil pan change.

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thump426er · Jun 11, 2019

I too wouldn’t pull a cover to look inside unless I noticed something in the oil when I drained it. But I also change oil after 1st ride then every 500kms. I feel like there is an aluminum gear in there because there is always a light discolouration with the oil which doesn’t happen with steel only gears.

Hotchief · Jan 21, 2020

Do you guys know torque spec on the drain plug?
Couldn't find it in the book...
Have 100 miles and looks pretty silver so thinking the break-in change would be good now.

kiliki · Jan 21, 2020

Snug is all you need

bnorth · Jan 23, 2020

zero ugga-duggas

zl5600 · Jan 23, 2020

sno*jet said:
what's the point of cleaning the insides? it has a drain plug. like your trucks transfercase.

Show me the drain plug. My 2018 and my 2020 do not have one. 6000 ZR's.

Vern · Jan 23, 2020

zl5600 said:
Show me the drain plug. My 2018 and my 2020 do not have one. 6000 ZR's.

My '20 alpha has one, I believe the mtn sleds have had drain plugs since around '17. Not sure why they wouldn't put them on the trail sleds.

sno*jet · Jan 24, 2020

zl5600 said:
Show me the drain plug. My 2018 and my 2020 do not have one. 6000 ZR's.

you have ZRs, not Ascender platform

bgraff1 · Jan 24, 2020

delete that junk and install a belt drive for peace of mind. ill never own a sled without a belt drive

beerios5 · Jan 24, 2020

My 2020 alpha has one, just drained it yesterday

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MTN_VIPER · Jan 24, 2020

I believe that the non-drop and rolled chain cases used on ZR's and other low elevation sleds do not have a drain plug. While the mountain sleds with drop/roll have drain plugs.

zl5600 · Jan 24, 2020

MTN_VIPER said:
I believe that the non-drop and rolled chain cases used on ZR's and other low elevation sleds do not have a drain plug. While the mountain sleds with drop/roll have drain plugs.

Must be. I just looked at the difference on countrycats web site. Wish the trail sleds had that. Not hard to drain, but you have to really tear into the sled to do it.

MI1M600EFI · Jan 24, 2020

I've seen a couple people talk about aluminum sprockets in the chaincase. As I just replaced the case halves on my wife's 2018 M6000, I can tell you both gears are steel. Not sure what would cause a metallic look to the fluid, but hers was a dark gray when it puked out the bottom... Couple days of riding in since the rebuild, so I'll probably do a drain an fill after the next ride just to flush out any junk that shouldn't be in there.

Old & slow · Jan 26, 2020

MI1M600EFI said:
I've seen a couple people talk about aluminum sprockets in the chaincase. As I just replaced the case halves on my wife's 2018 M6000, I can tell you both gears are steel. Not sure what would cause a metallic look to the fluid, but hers was a dark gray when it puked out the bottom... Couple days of riding in since the rebuild, so I'll probably do a drain an fill after the next ride just to flush out any junk that shouldn't be in there.

All the 800's I have seen have an aluminum bottom gear AC has been using them for 5 or more years.

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