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Wondering if anyone has rode both big bores and/or had any dyno specs on the 950. Also which one is more reliable and biggest power gains.
950 cpc vs 940 bikeman
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I was one of the first with a 940 and they are very impressive. Cost complete kit 4300. I would put the 900 up against any 925 kit and the 940 up against any pump gas turbo.
With that said I have not been on a cpc 950 but at $6500 you would be money a head to go a head and buy a new 2015 prolite with the 940 in it.
New sled 12k plus 6500 just for the kit is 18500 plus labor and still going to be over 450lb sled.
New prolite start at 17799 and weight in at 420lb.
Put a belt drive on it for 800 and you drop almost 10lb more.
I was one of the first with a 940 and they are very impressive. Cost complete kit 4300. I would put the 900 up against any 925 kit and the 940 up against any pump gas turbo.
With that said I have not been on a cpc 950 but at $6500 you would be money a head to go a head and buy a new 2015 prolite with the 940 in it.
New sled 12k plus 6500 just for the kit is 18500 plus labor and still going to be over 450lb sled.
New prolite start at 17799 and weight in at 420lb.
Put a belt drive on it for 800 and you drop almost 10lb more.
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Your in Nodak, have you called Dakota Performance. He builds a 920 that runs real well. I think his starts around $3000. You can add different options or run the base kit. They all work good. Give them a call.
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Where are you getting $6500? I got a quote from CPC on a 950 big bore last season and (I don't remember exactly but) I want to say it was in the $3500 range.
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$3500 for a 950 CPC with fuel controller.
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Kit?
CPC 950cc Monster Cat
Complete bolt on kit. This kit is for those of you who are looking for Monster horsepower and Monster torque. The kit includes the new CPC 11 port high performance cast cylinders, billet head with your choice of compression inserts,92.58 mm forged pistons & rings, gasket, O rings and hardware.
That is just top end and fuel control.
Ok so the just 940 kit 2400.00 plus fuel controller 375
Bored plated,head pistons and Power valves 2775.00
with out
52 MM throttle boddies
Boyesen reads
Clutching
Pipe and y pipe
Must have pipe Y and can.
Throttle bodies are good for about 5Lb of torque
Take it for what its worth.
CPC 950cc Monster Cat
Complete bolt on kit. This kit is for those of you who are looking for Monster horsepower and Monster torque. The kit includes the new CPC 11 port high performance cast cylinders, billet head with your choice of compression inserts,92.58 mm forged pistons & rings, gasket, O rings and hardware.
That is just top end and fuel control.
Ok so the just 940 kit 2400.00 plus fuel controller 375
Bored plated,head pistons and Power valves 2775.00
with out
52 MM throttle boddies
Boyesen reads
Clutching
Pipe and y pipe
Must have pipe Y and can.
Throttle bodies are good for about 5Lb of torque
Take it for what its worth.
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On Cutler's website I got to $5840 by the time all their clutching, pipes, throttle bodies, and a set of reeds added. If you included their redline gauge then you are another $1000 (not that this is needed). Not saying one is better than the other, but like MMSports said, make sure you are comparing apples to apples.
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I already have a bikeman y-pipe and can. I'll have 50mm throttle bodies in and reeds. Pipe I'm undecided on so far. I do know there was a thread on the 950 but never said what power was out of it. The only thing I need is the big bore and controller
Also I know the bikeman kit you need the 940 pipe for low elevation and also a 940 can. On the 940 can did they just use a larger tube for it compared to the other can?
I'll be wanting high and low elevation heads. Both kits have positive feedback from what I've seen. Be nice if cpc had a dyno specs on their big bore.
Also I know the bikeman kit you need the 940 pipe for low elevation and also a 940 can. On the 940 can did they just use a larger tube for it compared to the other can?
I'll be wanting high and low elevation heads. Both kits have positive feedback from what I've seen. Be nice if cpc had a dyno specs on their big bore.
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I did some testing last year put the 900 pipe on my 940 and it did not like it. The 940 must have right pipe.
FYI
I did some testing last year put the 900 pipe on my 940 and it did not like it. The 940 must have right pipe.
Call dale he told me it makes 195 with his pipe which Is made by bikeman and the same pipe they use in their 940s. That's with no intake changes so stock throttle bodies and reeds. So if you figure .75 hp per mm of throttle body That's Another 4.5 hp and whatever the boysen reeds give you. If both dynos are accurate they are pretty close to the same hp
One thing to consider however is that the CPC kit COMES with new cylinders... means you can either stick your stockers on the shelf to put the sled back to stock before resale, or sell the outright to make some of your money back. Just another part of the story and a factor. No matter what I think you're going to love the BB.. I love mine and I'm sure it's nothing in power compared to the 940 or 950. I think if i was in the market, or the next one I'll build would be one of those two motors. Maybe next year....
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Thanks for the clarification. That's what I was looking for!
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I have a Bikeman 900 kit on my Prolite and it's incredibly good. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the kit, but only IF you buy it from a great shop like MMsports that can give you support after the sale. Bikeman's customer service isn't bad, it's non-existent. Call them at (715)483-3003 and see. If a human answers I'll eat my hat. Meanwhile, I've always been able to get Dale Cutler on the phone.
Also, if you're considering buying either of these kits for retail price, you'd be a real sucker not to just buy a Prolite and get thousand$ in lightweight parts for little-to-no extra money.
Also, if you're considering buying either of these kits for retail price, you'd be a real sucker not to just buy a Prolite and get thousand$ in lightweight parts for little-to-no extra money.
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I have the Cutler 950 in my full carbon chassis, and also have a SLP Stage 2 sled with carbon hood, tank, lightweight seat, belt drive etc.
My 950 wasn't tuned correctly, but hoping WKM can get that sorted for me.
We side by side raced my wifes SLP sled against my full carbon 950 and it was within 1 sled length every race. I wasnt too excited about that to be honest...
We also had a bone stock 2014 Assault with a can on it that was side by side with my wifes stage 2 sled (about $23,000 into that machine) and it was almost neck and neck on the same pulls. I'm a cat guy, but that hurts.
My 950 wasn't tuned correctly, but hoping WKM can get that sorted for me.
We side by side raced my wifes SLP sled against my full carbon 950 and it was within 1 sled length every race. I wasnt too excited about that to be honest...
We also had a bone stock 2014 Assault with a can on it that was side by side with my wifes stage 2 sled (about $23,000 into that machine) and it was almost neck and neck on the same pulls. I'm a cat guy, but that hurts.
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Yeah, I came off a 330hp M1100 turbo that was 100 pounds less than stock, and hoped for a bit more on this build. Will see what WKM can do in terms of tuning. Rumour has it that Linderman get a tune nailed down pretty good for a very similar build to mine. if I can get that loaded up and it helps I will be a bit happier. Maybe put a bit of boost into it if not, or go back to a 4 stroke.
The 950 would shine in a longer pull. We were in valemount playing around that day, a decent pull, but nothing that a stock 800 shouldn't be able to tackle in my opinion.
The 950 would shine in a longer pull. We were in valemount playing around that day, a decent pull, but nothing that a stock 800 shouldn't be able to tackle in my opinion.
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I was looking at doing a cpc 950 with Brent's touches but am 100% happy I just went with his 925 BB. Brent is very smart and can get that thing going for you if you give him the chance
Last time we had the 950 cf out it seemed to run good but we didn't have another 800 in the group to compare it to, only 1100's, and powerwise they aren't close in our group. Your old one with the bc275 hp kit pulls substantially harder even without the ic fan kit and the clutching in it. Hard going back to 2s power after having 100+ hp more but handling is different and how beat you are at the end of the day is sure nice.
As soon as some snow drops we'll get to cracking on the old girl.
As soon as some snow drops we'll get to cracking on the old girl.
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Thanks Genie!
Ferg mentioned you guys should have your hands on a tune after our last ride in May.
I miss the 4 stroke power big time, might have to look into a new build.
I'll scare the mice out of ours and get them in to ya!
Ferg mentioned you guys should have your hands on a tune after our last ride in May.
I miss the 4 stroke power big time, might have to look into a new build.
I'll scare the mice out of ours and get them in to ya!
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