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Old 06-12-2018, 11:15 AM
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Default Rekluse, Radius CX, is on the way.

I'll admit, I never thought that in 1,000,000 years that I'd get a Rekluse. Why would I?, a highly skilled dirt rider and a snow biker with a seasons worth of experience, I know how to use a clutch and don't need no auto-clutch. What changed?

My wife bought herself a new TTR 125 LE and I put a Rekluse Core EXP 3.0 in it and fell in love with how it works. Being able to stop and not have to pull the clutch in and maybe hold it for long periods of time like I do when I'm either stuck in traffic as my Beta 500 RR-S is street legal and due to the design of the clutch, the bike wants to creep even with the clutch disengaged, so the Rekluse will help and I'll only have to keep the brake(s) on like I already have to do.

Then, after reading how much easier a time I have read that others have in rocky/rooty/gnarly trail and that not having to worry about clutching or stalling, and how one can just roll on through the nasty sections is nothing but a good thing for me. How the bike can be easily loaded and not having to worry about covering the clutch or even modulating it at all is another positive. Lastly, when in the snow, and needing to maneuver in tight quarters and not needing to again, worry about clutch, clutch, clutch, did I mention how nice it will be not needing to worry about the clutch will be?

I'll admit again, had I not tried the system in my wife's bike, I'd never consider the system but now I'm looking forward to getting it and putting it in and then riding it. It will be so neat.
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What I have found is it is good in some technical situations but more times than not I am still using the clutch in the classic way. There are many times I want the bike revving and then be modulating the clutch. For this I dont use the rekluse. Having the bike engage at near idle does not give me the control I need at times. With the rekluse your control depends on off idle throttle response. I find the way most engines respond to throttle off idle is not as exact as you can be with a clutch.

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Old 06-13-2018, 07:11 AM
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I can see the limitations of the Rekluse and how it is not an end-all to the clutch.

It is going to be wild, the first time I get into any rocky sections and just being able to roll on the throttle and not need to use the clutch at all since I can count the number of times I've ever had to slip or fan my clutch in all my miles of riding horrible trail.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:23 AM
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few thoughts... 1. the point of it is NOT so you can just sit it in first gear and not have to find neutral on your breaks or watching a 45 second hill climb or whatever. I believe thats hard on the plates. ive never been a huge fan of the ol "put it in first and just hold the clutch lever in forever while slipping the plates" trick.... just put it in neutral!!!


2. if youve got several years experience on a bike... youre gonna have a hard time learning to ignore and forget the clutch lever and trust the rekluse... I do at least. I also got a left hand rear brake, but I just cant do it. the LHRB feels too weird, and completely ignoring my clutch lever feels weird too... even with a rekluse, I still ride 100% normally and feather the clutch lever like crazy and forget I even got the rekluse and chances are you will too... hopefully!! its not something you wanna rely on much. itll save you once in a while where you normally woulda stalled, and thats about it IMO.



I dont even know ive got it most the time... but im sure its saved my ass a few times and I didnt even realize it. ya dont know what you got till its gone sorta deal. I think thats the main feature of the rekluse (IMO) is no stalls... not so you can completely change your riding style and ditch the clutch lever.. thats just lazy and doesnt offer the fine tuning or power delivery and rev adjustment that a clutch lever does.



all depends on your riding style I guess. im stubborn and cant drop habits like modulating the clutch lever and pulling it in when chit starts to hit the fan. I think if youve been riding for a few dozen years, itll be tough to adjust. these hydraulic clutches are a dream to use anyways... my buddies ol cable operated yz clutch is torture. literally.




also, its superrrrr annoying not being able to bomb start the bike, as well as not EVER being able to lock up the rear wheel while youre stopped and bike is off like on a hill or something... putting it in 1st wont stop it from rolling anymore, or rolling backwards. it kinda sucks sometimes.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:20 AM
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I appreciate the thoughts as I have no idea of what to expect other than the fun experience I have had using the wife's TTR 125 with the kit in it and being able to just sit, with the bike in 1st gear is nice.

Most of us with current/late model Beta's can find neutral while in gear and the bike running. If one is rolling along, knowing they want neutral, have to find it before coming to a stop or else we have to shut the bike off, find neutral, then start back up. An almost $1,000 solution is the Rekluse-ha!

Now, while puttering along on the TTR 125 in the field, it is odd to just ignore the clutch and just pull up or press down on the gearshifter to shift but I do it knowing that I can, and that I'm lazy. Here I am, I can ride any trail here in New England, no problem, no matter how steep or rocky, so my thinking is that it will be nice, when I know that I can just either keep the bike in a gear, or upshift/downshift, and not have to worry about the clutch at all. Also, now that my kids are riding, and I plan on riding with them as much as possible and don't care if I ever go riding with my only dirt-riding friend I have, as I'll be puttering around with them, having the Rekluse will be so nice instead of always having to clutch. Lazy has become me.

No LHRB for me. I have never been in any situation where some need it so I know I can do without. Same with not worrying about getting caught on a hill and needing the assist that the bike getting caught, stalled in gear would help. I rack my mind thinking of any of the times where the bike in gear have helped me and I'm sure there are some and all I can hope is that I'll be very aware of that situation and try and not to lose my bike down any hill in the woods/anywhere.

I can also imagine how nice it will be in the snow, not needing to clutch at all is going to be awesome.

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Just reading the comments. Installing the Rekluse does not preclude yourself from using the clutch the "classical" way. You can still pull in the clutch lever to slip, increase revs etc. To be honest - I ride my Rekluse like a standard clutch most of the time. It is where I screw up in the tight stuff that the Rekluse comes in so handy
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Old 06-19-2018, 12:55 PM
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Yes, the Core EXP 3.0 that I had put in my wife's TTR 125 LE allows me to use the clutch, like a normal clutch, albeit with a slightly stiffer pull, but it still works as will the Radius CX.

It comes for me tomorrow and I'm so looking forward to putting it in and using it. I will really like that the CX will/should-retain the same feel as the stock clutch.
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Install took me 2 hours this afternoon/evening. It was easy as I had made sure to read the instructions before I got the kit so I knew what I had to do and had a new bottle of DOT4 for my hydraulic clutch. Rekluse does a great job with the instructions.

I had just followed the steps for the break in and the first time I put the bike into 1st gear, and let the clutch out and the bike just sat, was glorious. When I twisted the throttle and the bike just rolled alone, it was a revelation. I'm going to love my bike even more with this Radius CX. The other great thing about the CX is that the clutch pull is the same and maybe even a bit lighter so that is also awesome.

I'm now looking forward to riding to work and getting out and riding again.

I may even move my gear shifter down a spline or two as I had realized with the wife's bike, how much my entire body would move when using the clutch to shift, and when I no longer had to pull the clutch in and only had to either pull up or press down on the gear shifter, the economy of motion from not needing to pull the clutch in then move the gearshifter was made even easier when I had adjusted the gearshifter down so I will probably move it down one spline and try it out after work tomorrow.
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I used to knock the Rekluse. 'How could any self respecting rider need something that does the clutch for them? I'm a superior rider, I'll never need one of those things.' Had my wife not bought herself a new TTR 125 and me putting in an EXP Core 3.0 and trying it, I'd never have entertained the idea of a Rekluse in my Triple Sport Beta 500 RR-S, no way. But here I am and loving it so far.

Beta has some issue with the bike wanting to creep forward at idle in gear, even with the clutch in, it is something in the design of the clutch and for 2018+ they had addressed the issue. That neutral cannot be found at a stop until the engine is off makes me shutting the bike off anytime I need to stop for any length of time.

The Radius CX has addressed both these problems and then some. I now have zero creep while in any gear at a stop. With the red springs in one side of the EXP and the blue heavy springs in the other, the clutch engages at 2,100 or 2,200, which for me is instant, instant and smooth engagement. I know that I can't get the bike to move out as smoothly and easily as the Rekluse does it. If traction was great before, it will now be even better.

I had started, and will stay with the Rekluse starting point of having the clutch slave adjuster turned in one full turn from the "tight spot" plus 2 notches and so far, that recommendation has been perfect and I have no plan to mess with that free play gap, not when it is all working so well already. That the kit has their clutch slave along with the external adjuster that is moved with a 4mm allen wrench is great and so far, I still have the nice, light clutch pull and the same feel/modulation I had before the install of the kit.

It is going to take just a wee-bit of getting used to how, when rolling or coming to a stop in any gear, to not worry about how the engine idles down to just below the normal idle for a moment before the Rekluse does its job and releases the clutch and all is well. So far I'm loving it and I've only ridden 4.4 miles on the street to work this morning.

The Radius CX is going to be awesome on the snowbike this upcoming winter, now I know what the hype has been about all these years for those that use and love the system. I'm glad that Rekluse made the CX-their top of the line unit, and have dialed it in so well. It's also going to help with riding with the kids as they ride so slow, I'd be constantly shifting from 1-2, 2-1, now I can leave it in 2nd and just bumble along, happy as can be with my bike just rolling right along with them.

I am going to move my shift lever down one spline and see how it feels as I know that the lever is too high to take advantage of the no more clutch necessary as I have been meaning to move it but now that the Rekluse is in, I really need to do it and will when I get home at 1:30pm today-my early day here at work.
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