Legend Oil or alternative Mineral Oil

Boreal · Dec 6, 2017

Hello.

I have been using Legend oil for years, starting with all the positive reviews for it on this site. In Canada, the easiest place to get it was Royal Distributing. I ordered cases of it from them. They have stopped selling it, and the places listed on the Legend website aren't selling it either.

Does anyone know where in Canada Legend Oil can be ordered from? Preferably western Canada where I am.

Royal Distributing sells a new 2 stroke mineral oil from Viral Lubricants. I can't find a website or any information / feedback on this oil. Has anyone ever used it?

I am lost now on what mineral based oil to use now after many years of using Legend.

Thanks.

utahpowder1 · Dec 6, 2017

As a resident of Canada, are you not able to order the oil from the Legend Performance website? I recently ordered a case of the ZX-2SR oil and received it in a week of ordering? Can't wait to use it in my new 800 Axys.

Boreal · Dec 6, 2017

When you go to checkout, the only shipping options for selecting a country are USA and UK. I've tried phoning a few times and goes to voicemail. Besides that; it is a bit of a hassle right now ordering from the states with the shipping, duties, and dollar difference.

BILTIT · Dec 6, 2017

I too was running legend but it has become to much of a hassle/cost to get. My second choice is ipone. I think you can get it from royal dis still.

I am thinking of going back to amsoil just due to ease of obtaining it.

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DV-ENT · Dec 6, 2017

BILTIT said:
I too was running legend but it has become to much of a hassle/cost to get. My second choice is ipone. I think you can get it from royal dis still.

I am thinking of going back to amsoil just due to ease of obtaining it.

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give Chris a call at parkland motorsports in Stoney Plain, he allways has it in stock and will ship it anywhere.

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Boreal · Dec 6, 2017

2 cases coming by greyhound tomorrow from parkland motorsports. Thanks!

snoballssnoglory · Dec 6, 2017

I love legend. However have been using it only in the older cats I own.
Anyone have any poor experiences running legend in the Axys turbo application?
(I took the liberty of hijacking the thread since You were able to get your oil coming!

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Snowbird11 · Dec 6, 2017

snoballssnoglory said:
Anyone have any poor experiences running legend in the Axys turbo application?

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not a turbo but my axys suffers from using legend oil. unfortunately i don't have to clean my exhaust valves very often, my engine is well protected and the exhaust smells too good. they really should stop making this oil.

fwiw, in the states passo racing has the best price shipped i've found. kind of hard to find dealers these days.

DV-ENT · Dec 6, 2017

snoballssnoglory said:
I love legend. However have been using it only in the older cats I own.
Anyone have any poor experiences running legend in the Axys turbo application?
(I took the liberty of hijacking the thread since You were able to get your oil coming!

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i ran it in my 2012 pro, 2013 pro with alp stage 4 kit and on my stock 2016 axys and a few other friends are running it and we have all had great success with it, 4500km on the 2013 before I sold it and had it inspected by a tech before hand and it was perfect. I am currently putting a new top end in a 2012 turbo pro and will be running the same oil and am confident it will be great, I don't believe I will ever run anything but legend in my sleds or bikes.

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snoballssnoglory · Dec 6, 2017

Thanks guys. I do love the smell of that stuff!!!

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GreenState · Dec 7, 2017

Don't use Legend in the Axys. It says "Full Synthetic" for a reason.

I used to use it too in my Pro's, then I only used in in my KTM. Now I won't touch the stuff. I sold my last case for pennies on the dollar of what I paid.

Scroll down to post #15. It's not good.

https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402139

I've switched over to VES Race and couldn't be happier. $5 more per gallon vs. VES and available at any Polaris dealer.

Formerly Racing Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil, VES Race is the same full-synthetic, outstanding quality formula.

Latest industry synthetic chemistries for extremely high film strength
New technology additives improve engine and exhaust valve cleanliness
Friction modified for improved lubricity scuff protection
Anti-wear additive chemistry greatly extends ring, cylinder and bearing life
Ultimate trail performance
Reduced odor and smoke
Improved cold flow characteristics
Increased antioxidants reducing “Hot Spot” deposits
Increased wear protection under high load / high RPM
Premix or injection

Merlin · Dec 7, 2017

Thanks for the heads up on Parkland being a distributor!

Much closer to me than Sled Pro Distributing in Ontario where I was directed to last year.

DV-ENT said:
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Snowbird11 · Dec 7, 2017

GreenState said:
Don't use Legend in the Axys. It says "Full Synthetic" for a reason.

I used to use it too in my Pro's, then I only used in in my KTM. Now I won't touch the stuff. I sold my last case for pennies on the dollar of what I paid.

Scroll down to post #15. It's not good.

https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402139

ok, that got my attention. has anyone changed their opinion in the last year? i have yet to break down my axys and look but i haven't seen power loss per se. i also have yet to hit 8200 rpms consistently but it still pulls hard and does its job.

so, with all the power loss threads out there (motor mounts, ves cables, clutching, oils, crank case leaks, relays, etc....) what's a guy to do?

turboless terry · Dec 7, 2017

Completely false. Used legend in 2 axys, numerous pros, 2 850's, turboes and stock sleds with no problems.

GreenState · Dec 8, 2017

turboless terry said:
Completely false. Used legend in 2 axys, numerous pros, 2 850's, turboes and stock sleds with no problems.

Any pictures of the power valves after 1,000 miles on any of those?

DV-ENT · Dec 8, 2017

I've used this oil in everything and am very meticulous with inspections of everything on both my sleds as well as bikes by professionals at the beginning of every season and i have never had any issues nor has any other oil I've ever used
kept my internals looking so good. and that included my 2016 axys. I have personally spoken with the Canadian distributor of this product and another well known popular oil and he told me that a large clientele base of his own and race some of the fastest boats in the world and will not run any oil in there machines until its sent to a lab for testing and when they get the results he said most all of them have switched to Legend all but one that ran a combination of Legend and another oil for what ever reason. Im sure this will cause a stir with some but this is what i was told and has been my experiences with using Legend oil for many years in all my toys and never had any issues or concerns. Run what your comfortable with and roll with it good or bad.... I hope this helps and good luck.

mountainhorse · Dec 9, 2017

IMO... the Legend oil is a TOP quality product.... better for most in our applications...but I agree, the distribution is not a quick as other oils.

With the Legend oil... you do need to plan ahead for your season and order early as it usually takes a couple of weeks from the time you order till you have it on your doorstep.

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bigtom · Dec 9, 2017

mountainhorse said:
IMO... the Legend oil is a TOP quality product.... better for most in our applications...but I agree, the distribution is not a quick as other oils.

With the Legend oil... you do need to plan ahead for your season and order early as it usually takes a couple of weeks from the time you order till you have it on your doorstep.

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Good luck!... I live in the town legend is based out of and nobody sells it, not the after market or brand dealers. They say you have to buy a pallet from him to become a dealer. I ran it for a year with good luck, but I'm not playing cat and mouse trying to catch him at his shop to buy oil. I'm also hearing guys that ran it for years are noticing all of a sudden that there having problems with dirty/sticking valves.. Its stupid, he could have a major oil network going but instead you have to play phone tag.. not me.

DV-ENT · Dec 9, 2017

bigtom said:
Good luck!... I live in the town legend is based out of and nobody sells it, not the after market or brand dealers. They say you have to buy a pallet from him to become a dealer. I ran it for a year with good luck, but I'm not playing cat and mouse trying to catch him at his shop to buy oil. I'm also hearing guys that ran it for years are noticing all of a sudden that there having problems with dirty/sticking valves.. Its stupid, he could have a major oil network going but instead you have to play phone tag.. not me.

I looked into distribution and found what you say to be true about buying a pallet and yes it was no easy task communicating with him, and I'm glad my friends and I haven't had any of the issues mentioned here.

wisboy25 · Dec 10, 2017

I have ran legend in last 5 sleds with zero issues on any of them valves stay clean engine look like new after 3-4000 miles and I just order on website and boom it's here to play cat and mouse as some say is B's in the states can order and within 4 days have it

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