LARGER PRINT VERSION BELOW!
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2018 Summit X: First Ride Impressions
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LARGER PRINT VERSION BELOW!
I read it in small print, then scrolled down :face-icon-small-con, You should edit the top and put ( Larger print below) or something so we know.
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After I posted and looked at it for a while I decided it needed BIGGER type so I took a new Screen Shot and added it.
You're still waiting energy pull starting versus pressing a button. 30-40 pulls a day adds up.
It's also about the times the sled is in a position that makes it hard to pull start. No much of a problem with Cats that have the pull start in the center.
Haha leave it somebody to complain about an innovation that adds only 2lbs to the sled for the convenience of pressing a button all day...gtfo
SHOT is genius!!!! I love the e-start for all the reasons mentioned, this set up is just 10-12lbs lighter than an e-start with a LW battery.
SHOT is awesome.... great job by SkiDoo !!
You have to pay for development... and get paid when you have a great product...I get all of that..
but for the complexity and components involved... the up charge for SHOT is pretty darn steep IMO... I wonder where where the actual curve of profit maximization occurs.... where volume and price intersect to yield the most.... That often weighs heavily on market predictions by the bean counters...
IMO... SHOT is a great system that we will see drastic price drops on in the years to come... but hey..In the mean time, you'll have to pay big bucks for cutting edge tech.
AND beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder (aka buyer) ...
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You have to pay for development... and get paid when you have a great product...I get all of that..
but for the complexity and components involved... the up charge for SHOT is pretty darn steep IMO... I wonder where where the actual curve of profit maximization occurs.... where volume and price intersect to yield the most.... That often weighs heavily on market predictions by the bean counters...
IMO... SHOT is a great system that we will see drastic price drops on in the years to come... but hey..In the mean time, you'll have to pay big bucks for cutting edge tech.
AND beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder (aka buyer) ...
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I guess I thought the doo is easier to start. It is like a little half a pull where the poo seems to start closer to the end of the rope. That really pains my shoulders after 25 years of concrete.
Doo might finally get their wish and be even or possibly lighter if you compare shot compared to an electric start poo.
Doo might finally get their wish and be even or possibly lighter if you compare shot compared to an electric start poo.
The 850 starts within 12" of pulling the rope. $600 for a fake electric start is silly. Do the math of what every start costs for the duration of a year. I will come start your sleds for you. Obviously the guys that put on 3000 miles a year are paying less per start than the guys that put on 500. But seriously, are we all really that lazy? It is like the girl that has to park right next to the gym instead of across the parking lot, because she doesn't want to have to walk into the gym. To walk on the treadmill....
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That reminds me of the argument against reverse back in the day, now no one would buy a sled without it now.
Same with KTM dirt bikes all come stock with e start , at first everyone b-tched about the weight now KTM is lighter even with e start and the rest of the industry is playing catch up.
It will not take long before the consumer will demand shot or E start at no weight penalty on Sleds.
Same with KTM dirt bikes all come stock with e start , at first everyone b-tched about the weight now KTM is lighter even with e start and the rest of the industry is playing catch up.
It will not take long before the consumer will demand shot or E start at no weight penalty on Sleds.
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My rotator cuff is soar from old age and my livelihood. But pulling the rope all day makes it hurt. I was already to snow check a e-start n sacrifice the weight and extra responsibility in the summer to keep the battery charged. Win win for me.... If they figure out the clutching
I am far from lazy. You come with me when I do a 2000 Sq. Ft. Floor by myself when it's 90 out and then you decide whether I'm lazy. I might be tired but can't quit. I might be thirsty but don't have time to get a drink. Might get a cramp but you just have to straighten your leg and keep toweling. I usually have help but I have done this.
You wouldn't even question why I would want it if you had my shoulders for a day. Years ago, I was one spending a $100 per pound to take weight off and wouldn't hear of it. Well, things change. Way less energy spent. Does away with those awkward starts. Little to no weight. Can't imagine why you wouldn't want it. The funny thing is is nobody will notice the weight difference between shot and electric start. You can't tell on a doo guaranteed but at least you won't have to play the battery game or spin the clutch.
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Probably never wear out an other recoil.:face-icon-small-hap
The first adopters of technology always bear the brunt of the cost. Especially so with snowmobiles where unlike phones or a TV, you have far fewer customers to spread the costs of developing new tech.
Usually i agree with most of your comments on here. I think you are way off.... You cannot use the Money argument. You spend 2-3k per sled on shocks most years on multiple sleds... E start is the best thing ever in the mountains. I would way rather have it on my mountain sled than my trail sled. When i just got done rolling the sled over and it's on a sidehill with the recoil on the downward side in 4ft of fresh snow i would way rather just hit the button. Now i can hit the button for 2lbs. added weight... Just a no brainer.
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I agree, but my 15 for some reason is really hard to start when warm. Plus I tore a muscle in my right shoulder in the fall and I re injured it every time I rode due to my pull start this year.
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