It's not like it used be in big business where a business showed signs of financial issues. It's all great until one day boom! It's all over someone else owns it. Any good accountant can make the records we have access to on the net look good. What happended in 2008 to a lot of companies that we thought were great? Yamaha big fish cat is just bait. If cat was in great financial condition they would have told yamaha to take a hike we build our own motors.
Yamaha Corporate finally SPEAKS OUT on their future....
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Easier said than done on accountant comment. Google sarbanes oxley.
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I would have to agree with Newmy1 on this.
There is NO way Yamaha could camouflage a 51% buyout of Arctic Cat.
It takes 4 years or so to R&D and manufacture and engine, hence why Yamaha and Cat partnered up for a couple years so Cat could get their engines going and Yamaha could get a jump start on their chassis. To my understanding Yamaha and Cat are going to seperate in MY2018 for Yamaha's 50th sled anniversary. I heard all this at the Minneapolis dealer meeting talking to various reps.
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i can tell you with 100% certainty he has a little inside info:face-icon-small-win:face-icon-small-hap
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Are you inebriated? Check your sources, clown. Cat just bought back 8 million of a suzuki owned 12 million ACAT stock.
Cat is not in financial trouble.
Last I heard, Cat was building Yamaha's sleds... not the other way around.
Cat is building ONE sled for Yamaha.
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The 120?
Chris, I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure climbmax/RS is in a better position than all of us when it comes to what is in store for Yamaha mountain sleds.
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You would sure think so wouldn't you:face-icon-small-hap:face-icon-small-hap
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yes he would be on the down low:face-icon-small-win,he is one of the reasons yammi has some followers in the mtn segment,pretty much started the 4stroke turbo mtn sled craze.great guy to ride with too he knows a couple of secret spots in revy:face-icon-small-hap:face-icon-small-coo
There are still secret spots on Revy????:face-icon-small-sho
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Cousin Climbmax.......
You got time to ride with the flatlanders now? I mean outside of the movies. I think we caused the marriage back in 2002, when we parked our sleds too close to each other and looked away.
Owen
You got time to ride with the flatlanders now? I mean outside of the movies. I think we caused the marriage back in 2002, when we parked our sleds too close to each other and looked away.
Owen
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Its a dangerous thing parking a Yamaha next to a Cat....:face-icon-small-hap
sorry paul AC is doing quite well------The company reported record earnings per diluted share of $1.30 on net earnings of $17.9 million for the fiscal 2013 third quarter ended December 31, 2012, compared to prior-year earnings per diluted share of $0.92 on net earnings of $17.0 million. Net sales in the fiscal 2013 third quarter increased 5% to $218.0 million versus net sales of $207.0 million in the same quarter last year. Operating profit was $27.671 million, compared to $26.183 million for the last year. Earnings before income taxes were $27.679 million, compared to $26.205 million for the last year.
I found a list of the AC share holder and dont see Yamaha amoung them.
Should you be buying stocks right now?
Arctic Cat, Inc. ACATAdd to PortfolioGet E-mail AlertsPrint This PagePDF ReportData DefinitionData QuestionQuoteChartStock AnalysisPerformanceKey RatiosFinancialsValuationInsidersShareholdersTranscripts newFilingsBondsOptionShareholders' OverviewMajor ShareholdersConcentrated ShareholdersShareholders BuyingShareholders SellingMajor Shareholders ACATFunds Institutions
Name Shares
Held % Total
Shares Held Shares
Change % Chg from
Prior Port % Total
Assets Date of
Portfolio Star Rating
BMO Small-Cap Growth Y 315,600 2.39 41,800 15.27 1.83 12/31/2012
Goldman Sachs Small Cap Value A 240,849 1.83 29,619 14.02 0.25 12/31/2012
DFA U.S. Small Cap Value II 208,983 1.58 -29,115 -12.23 0.11 11/30/2012
Vanguard Small Cap Index 218,321 1.66 13,837 6.77 0.03 12/31/2012
Principal SmallCap Blend SP 198,210 1.39 0 0 0.86 01/31/2013
Ivy Funds VIP Small Cap Growth 185,020 1.40 -30,510 -14.16 1.37 12/31/2012
Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx 171,973 1.30 13,565 8.56 0 12/31/2012
JPMorgan Small Cap Growth A 158,600 1.20 31,000 24.29 0.68 12/31/2012
Vanguard Small Cap Growth Index Inv 153,995 1.17 8,735 6.01 0.05 12/31/2012
Hennessy Cornerstone Growth Investor 145,600 1.10 9,400 6.90 1.59 12/31/2012
DFA US Micro Cap I 112,187 0.85 0 0 0.12 11/30/2012
Vanguard Extended Market Idx Inv 107,629 0.82 1,950 1.85 0.02 12/31/2012
Principal SmallCap Blend R2 92,730 0.70 0 0 0.87 01/31/2013
iShares Russell 2000 Growth Index 90,657 0.67 -424 -0.47 0.07 02/27/2013
Royce Total Return Invmt 92,881 0.70 0 0 0.07 12/31/2012
iShares S&P SmallCap 600 Growth 86,405 0.64 0 0 0.17 02/27/2013
Hartford SmallCap Growth HLS IA 83,345 0.63 -690 -0.82 0.55 01/31/2013
Absolute Strategies I 72,600 0.55 0 0 0.07 09/30/2012
JPMorgan Dynamic Small Cap Growth A 74,570 0.57 13,700 22.51 0.68 12/31/2012
DFA US Small Cap I 65,125 0.49
Should you be buying stocks right now?
Arctic Cat, Inc. ACATAdd to PortfolioGet E-mail AlertsPrint This PagePDF ReportData DefinitionData QuestionQuoteChartStock AnalysisPerformanceKey RatiosFinancialsValuationInsidersShareholdersTranscripts newFilingsBondsOptionShareholders' OverviewMajor ShareholdersConcentrated ShareholdersShareholders BuyingShareholders SellingMajor Shareholders ACATFunds Institutions
Name Shares
Held % Total
Shares Held Shares
Change % Chg from
Prior Port % Total
Assets Date of
Portfolio Star Rating
BMO Small-Cap Growth Y 315,600 2.39 41,800 15.27 1.83 12/31/2012
Goldman Sachs Small Cap Value A 240,849 1.83 29,619 14.02 0.25 12/31/2012
DFA U.S. Small Cap Value II 208,983 1.58 -29,115 -12.23 0.11 11/30/2012
Vanguard Small Cap Index 218,321 1.66 13,837 6.77 0.03 12/31/2012
Principal SmallCap Blend SP 198,210 1.39 0 0 0.86 01/31/2013
Ivy Funds VIP Small Cap Growth 185,020 1.40 -30,510 -14.16 1.37 12/31/2012
Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx 171,973 1.30 13,565 8.56 0 12/31/2012
JPMorgan Small Cap Growth A 158,600 1.20 31,000 24.29 0.68 12/31/2012
Vanguard Small Cap Growth Index Inv 153,995 1.17 8,735 6.01 0.05 12/31/2012
Hennessy Cornerstone Growth Investor 145,600 1.10 9,400 6.90 1.59 12/31/2012
DFA US Micro Cap I 112,187 0.85 0 0 0.12 11/30/2012
Vanguard Extended Market Idx Inv 107,629 0.82 1,950 1.85 0.02 12/31/2012
Principal SmallCap Blend R2 92,730 0.70 0 0 0.87 01/31/2013
iShares Russell 2000 Growth Index 90,657 0.67 -424 -0.47 0.07 02/27/2013
Royce Total Return Invmt 92,881 0.70 0 0 0.07 12/31/2012
iShares S&P SmallCap 600 Growth 86,405 0.64 0 0 0.17 02/27/2013
Hartford SmallCap Growth HLS IA 83,345 0.63 -690 -0.82 0.55 01/31/2013
Absolute Strategies I 72,600 0.55 0 0 0.07 09/30/2012
JPMorgan Dynamic Small Cap Growth A 74,570 0.57 13,700 22.51 0.68 12/31/2012
DFA US Small Cap I 65,125 0.49
Thanks for digging!
I'm betting Cat just wanted a 4 stroke motor that has a record of being bullet proof so they can focus 100% on their 2stroke.
That said, yamaha must be working on something big for 2015 chassis wise, so for the time being they wanted a chassis that is known to be better than what they have and able to fit a 4stroke motor. Win win for both of them.
Of course I am totally guessing, but it seems plausible amirite?
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yup but yah gotta get off the main trail:face-icon-small-win:face-icon-small-hap
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Now that Cat is building two strokes in St. Cloud if
Yamaha might get a two stroke model again.
Owen
Yamaha might get a two stroke model again.
Owen
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