Cat went from a 162 to a 165 with the 3.5" pitch so the foot print is probably pretty close to the same there. The 153 to 154 might have lost a little. The flex of the track might makeup for lost footprint in some situations.
Alpha one 154” vs 165”
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Cat went from a 162 to a 165 with the 3.5" pitch so the foot print is probably pretty close to the same there. The 153 to 154 might have lost a little. The flex of the track might makeup for lost footprint in some situations.
The front drivers are basically the same size as 18. Rear wheels 2 inch bigger
Ill have an 18 and 19 next to each other in a couple weeks. Ill make a note to check out track and geometry.
Almost looks like they use the same length tunnel (165) for both the 154/165, if so I wouldn't get the 154 IMO, but as far as that goes I would get the 165 either way.
Cat's marketing team at it's finest. The 154 and 165 will not have the same tunnel length; they just got lazy with their photo shopping on the web images.
They still need to fix the weights on the Hard Core also - hard to believe those are only 1 lb heavier then the Alpha.
I rode the 165 Alpha back to back with my 153 MC. I thought they were very close on handling. When trying to pull them both on edge, I would typically punch the throttle on my MC and it would spin a little. The Alpha had a better bite and so it seemed like it would just take off and go instead of that little spin I was used to. It just needs less throttle input and I would get used to it. I'm far from a professional rider but my MC makes me feel like one 
I'm not sure which one I would choose if I were spring checkin one right now. That's tough. It was impressive watching that Alpha 165 go 50' higher up the hill than what my 153 MC could muster
I'm not sure which one I would choose if I were spring checkin one right now. That's tough. It was impressive watching that Alpha 165 go 50' higher up the hill than what my 153 MC could muster
I went and saw a Alpha today, and got a brochure from the dealer. I'm looking at the specs in the back and I see the Alpha, hardcore, and MTN cat have 12.5 gallon capacity for the fuel tanks, and the Sno Pro and SE still have 11.7. I'm hoping this means we finally get the tank they said the 18s were supposed to have and if so means we get even more weight savings.
Thats good cause this new 800 drinks some fuel!
That extra .8 gallons means i could comfortably go up to 55miles in a day!
That extra .8 gallons means i could comfortably go up to 55miles in a day!
Thats good cause this new 800 drinks some fuel!
That extra .8 gallons means i could comfortably go up to 55miles in a day!
Wasn't it supposed to save 5 lbs as well?
Thats good cause this new 800 drinks some fuel!
That extra .8 gallons means i could comfortably go up to 55miles in a day!
Tuesday when I rode I had well over 70 with just under half a tank to go.
Yes
its bad news for guys who fill them up all the way, accessory bags with water bottles, pizza pocket in the muff pot, "RTR is the only weight we care about":face-icon-small-con and then compare weights with less capacity sleds.
RTR is a joke, start worrying about that and you will get a 5 gallon tank so manufacturers can say their sled is lighter RTR.
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Was told the light weight tank never met Vapour leak standards and the engineers were lied to bye the manufacture so we will not see the new light weight tanks
Was told bye engineers that there was a magazine test on the mountain sleds that weighed them in the mountains and the cat was the lightest. Should be out soon . Anyone have knowledge of this? I know cat did this a few years ago but this was on the 18's
It won’t be lighter than the axys 2.6 with the belt drive. The 3” Polaris with a chsincase I bet it’s very close. The has been within 10ish lbs of the 3” Polaris for a couple years RTR
Depends on snow and riding style.
I avg 5-5.5mpg. Less if its deep and lots of hills involved.
I went 75 miles and used 7.3 gallons one time, it was a trail ride with my mom, my Girlfriend and i were riding double on my 18.
I agree dry weight but they were saying the magazine weighed them in the mountains with the snow build up in them and the cat held less snow so less real world weight. also the alpha is 11 lbs lighter and the popo is 7lbs heavier so that is a 18lb swing. also Polaris is light but there marketing is great. they advertise dry weight of there base model. light (cheap shocks) no paint ( paint on tunnel and rails adds up believe it) no bumper or bag. They are light but they do great on making that look even better than it is. If you click on the 3 inch chaincase version it wont tell you dry weight
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That’s funny cause I just was looking/curious myself today and noticed the same thing. Polaris doesn’t give a weight for chaincase model.
So has anyone actually seen or rode a 154 version, or did cat just make a handful of preproduction 165s?
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