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go high fast 06-28-2018 11:41 AM

Shocking primary victory in New York City.
 
Long time congressman widely thought to be a successor of Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the house dethroned in Democratic Congressional primary race in New York City. Elected is a 28 year old female newcomer to politics who ran on free college and free healthcare and anti-gun legislation with many other liberal/socialist and communist positions as the foundation of her platform.

Midterms should be interesting.

Wheel House Motorsports 06-28-2018 12:53 PM

Not the most shocking. Im betting we see a major swing back to the farther left then ever before. The political pendulum swings back and forth until it is knocked from its perch. The next wave of democrats to take office will be farther left then ever before. Follwed by a swing in the next 4-8 years of a new batch of repubs with farther right views.

BLITZKRIEG 06-28-2018 07:36 PM

Her being young & good looking had no sway on voters I'm sure. :face-icon-small-win

Mafesto 06-29-2018 05:10 AM

Her victory all but hands it to her republican opponent in November.

05900 06-29-2018 01:32 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/1dhasb.jpg

Mafesto 07-04-2018 06:05 AM

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This is her platform, and she won.
Let that sink in.
This is the direction many on the left want to take this country.

Pro-8250 07-12-2018 08:23 AM

Oh, if it was on Fox news it must be true then.

Skidoox 07-12-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro-8250 (Post 4153685)
Oh, if it was on Fox news it must be true then.


Go to her web site and check it out. looks like Fox news was correct.

https://ocasio2018.com/issues

go high fast 07-12-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4153055)
Her victory all but hands it to her republican opponent in November.

I dont think so! I will bet you a Jimmy Johns she wins by landslide!!

just so you know.......i like the Vito.

BLITZKRIEG 07-20-2018 02:36 PM

This is funny, JTK is the man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjpXAJ3hEBo

Mafesto 07-26-2018 05:45 AM

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Would you vote for this?

go high fast 07-26-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4154569)
Would you vote for this?

No but the majority of people in her district who will vote will support her and her agenda unconditionally.

Jean-Luc Picard 07-26-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4153055)
Her victory all but hands it to her republican opponent in November.


It is New York City, remember?

Mafesto 08-03-2018 03:55 AM

Been following this and I have to admit I have overestimated the intelligence and integrity of the next generation.
It seems that this socialism movement has more traction than I ever imagined.
The obvious question....
How can this even be a thing?

Mafesto 08-03-2018 03:59 AM

This is the same generation that has made "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a real illness, so asked and answered I guess.

Jean-Luc Picard 08-03-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4155256)
This is the same generation that has made "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a real illness, so asked and answered I guess.

We live in a time that anything and everything is at our fingertips. The fact that some people fixate on hypotheticals to the point they work themselves into a frenzy shows up all over the place. Folks (especially the rising generation) are so stuck in screens, they don't know what's going on outside their window (I say as I look at a screen). My wife & I enforced no screen time for July for our kids. The initial resistance was exactly what you'd expect. I told them there is no reason that in the most beautiful month in the year you shouldn't be outside.



This 28 yo in NY is at least participating. Her platform may be delusional, but she got off the couch & off her phone long enough to campaign in person a little. And it being NY, she probably will win.

Jean-Luc Picard 08-03-2018 09:05 AM

From her website:


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A Federal Jobs Guarantee



Alexandria endorses a Federal Jobs Guarantee, because anyone who is willing and able to work shouldn’t struggle to find employment.

A Federal Jobs Guarantee would create a baseline standard for employment that includes a $15 minimum wage (pegged to inflation), full healthcare, and child and sick leave for all. This proposal would dramatically upgrade the quality of employment in the United States, by providing training and experience to workers while bringing much-needed public services to our communities in areas such as parks service, childcare and environmental conservation.


Furthermore, a federal jobs guarantee program would establish a floor for wages and benefits for the nation’s workforce. This program would provide a baseline minimum wage of $15 an hour and guarantee for public workers a basic benefits package, including healthcare and childcare. By investing in our own workforce, we can lift thousands of American families out of poverty.

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With $15 per hour guaranteed jobs from the government, all mom & pop shops (and all fast food chains) will collapse. BUT DON'T FEAR THAT! Then the friendly government will step in and take over every business that isn't making it. Then everyone will be equal!!!

Said Karl Marx...

Mafesto 08-12-2018 06:31 PM

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Hooo Nellie

Mafesto 08-14-2018 05:20 AM

Recent gallop poll shows 47% of democrats view capitalism positively
While 57% of democrats view socialism positively.
Th brainwashing appears to be working.

Benjamin Franklin said that once the people realize that they can vote themselves money it will all be over. We're getting close if we don't do something.

Jean-Luc Picard 08-14-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4156041)
Recent gallop poll shows 47% of democrats view capitalism positively
While 57% of democrats view socialism positively.
Th brainwashing appears to be working.

Benjamin Franklin said that once the people realize that they can vote themselves money it will all be over. We're getting close if we don't do something.


I'm honestly surprised the Capitalism # is that high & the Socialism number is that low. Whoever was conducting the poll must have been looking for some fairly conservative democrats. In the very least, I think it shows 43% of Democrats have been completely hoodwinked & don't know what they're voting democrat actually supports.

Wheel House Motorsports 08-14-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4156041)
Th brainwashing appears to be working.

Its doing well for a lot of reasons.

Look at inflation adjust data for the following 2 things.

Median income and median home value.

This is just one of the 1000's of things that are shifting further and further apart every year. Income innequality in our nation is NOT a joke. There is SO much data to point this out. On average, americans are working longer, and there dollar isn't going as far as it did in years past.

So now a generation (boomers and a little younger) are telling the youth they need to just suck it up and work harder... "back in my day....." when the reality is, something else is at play here. They are working harder, and there money isn't getting them anywhere.

So the brain washing is not just a system saying socialism is good. What you are seeing people realize is that the corporate greed and concentration of wealth in america is continuing to gut the middle and lower class day by day. Its really not surprising the reaction is to want to socialize some of these things, or really do anything to stop what is happening as the current path is not heading in a positive direction.

Jean-Luc Picard 08-14-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheel House Motorsports (Post 4156078)
Its doing well for a lot of reasons.

Look at inflation adjust data for the following 2 things.

Median income and median home value.

This is just one of the 1000's of things that are shifting further and further apart every year. Income innequality in our nation is NOT a joke. There is SO much data to point this out. On average, americans are working longer, and there dollar isn't going as far as it did in years past.

So now a generation (boomers and a little younger) are telling the youth they need to just suck it up and work harder... "back in my day....." when the reality is, something else is at play here. They are working harder, and there money isn't getting them anywhere.

So the brain washing is not just a system saying socialism is good. What you are seeing people realize is that the corporate greed and concentration of wealth in america is continuing to gut the middle and lower class day by day. Its really not surprising the reaction is to want to socialize some of these things, or really do anything to stop what is happening as the current path is not heading in a positive direction.


I'm 39 years old & my combined income with my wife has yet to match what my high school dropout step father was making in a year when I was growing up 25 years ago, and yet I'm now making more per year than I ever have before. My house is smaller. I've owned a total of 1 brand new car in my life. Our current family car was bought 10 years ago for $3000 & we've since put 120,000 miles on it. (Suburbans are awesome). I've definitely seen the income inequality firsthand. My in laws complain about having to live on their retirement pension & soc. sec. that adds up to more than I'm making in a month. I'd just like to be a little bit ahead of hand to mouth. And yet, I make too much for the government to pay for my healthcare. So... the last time I sat down with a doctor was 4 years ago. The last time I saw a dentist was 6, and the last time I saw the eye doctor was 5.


That being said, I'm mostly ok with that. I wish the government would just but out & mind its own business most of the time. I think they have created most of the problems we have today. But I do worry about what would happen if something catastrophic ever happened to my wife or me. And I would really like to be able to tell my wife to go to the Doctor & not have her worrying about what where to pull $150 out of our budget for it.

Mafesto 08-14-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheel House Motorsports (Post 4156078)
Its doing well for a lot of reasons.

Look at inflation adjust data for the following 2 things.

Median income and median home value.

This is just one of the 1000's of things that are shifting further and further apart every year. Income innequality in our nation is NOT a joke. There is SO much data to point this out. On average, americans are working longer, and there dollar isn't going as far as it did in years past.

So now a generation (boomers and a little younger) are telling the youth they need to just suck it up and work harder... "back in my day....." when the reality is, something else is at play here. They are working harder, and there money isn't getting them anywhere.

So the brain washing is not just a system saying socialism is good. What you are seeing people realize is that the corporate greed and concentration of wealth in america is continuing to gut the middle and lower class day by day. Its really not surprising the reaction is to want to socialize some of these things, or really do anything to stop what is happening as the current path is not heading in a positive direction.

I agree with alot of what you are saying. I don't have all the answers, but I can guarantee letting our elected officials shove the answers down our throats is NOT the answer.
There simply isn't any example of an economic segment where the government meddling improved matters.

Wheel House Motorsports 08-15-2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mafesto (Post 4156116)
I agree with alot of what you are saying. I don't have all the answers, but I can guarantee letting our elected officials shove the answers down our throats is NOT the answer.
There simply isn't any example of an economic segment where the government meddling improved matters.


Nor do I. I'm just pointing out that I think what we are seeing is hardly "brainwashing" but very reasonable reactions to the environment people are seeing.


Remember 10 years ago when the economy was in the ****ter because big private industry in the US got greedy? When these massive private institutions were able to basically run the whole world economy into a recession because they just wanted MORE money?

I have minimal interest in the gov't being involved at all in any part of my life. But the political reaction we are seeing isn't really surprising. We have generations of people now who keep seeing the life getting harder every day while corporate america continues to gamble with there money to try and add another zero to there bank account. Its especially hard when you continue to see large cooperation effectively being "above the law" when they are at fault for ruining the lives and lively hoods of millions of Americans. This is building a total lack of trust in the idea of capitalism. Not that socialism isn't vulnerable to the exact same issues (as its proven to be) BUT, right now we have one system that is continuing to fail a large cross section of society so its not surprising they want something different.

Mafesto 08-15-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheel House Motorsports (Post 4156178)
We have generations of people now who keep seeing the life getting harder every day.



I'm not buying into this.
For the most part, the younger people that are financially struggling are the same ones that have no interest in working over 40 hours/week.
Here in the heartland, you could stop at any business and ask for a job, and they would either hire you on the spot or refer you to multiple places that would.


We often have this discussion, and it always end up "the young folks that want to work have the world by the balls" and I stand by that.


If it sucks where you are....move.
We don't have a shortage of jobs, we have a shortage of people wanting to do the less than desirable work.
And don't get me started on the able bodies that are working the system!
I just cringe when I here remarks like "why work overtime when uncle sam is gonna just take it" or "by the time we pay for daycare, my wife would be better off NOT working".
You know what? Your kids see this and learn the laziness.


The young people complaining about how hard it is should consider eliminating monthly expenses like cell phones, cable, internet, Netflix, daily energy drinks, tobacco etc. They are wasting the money that could be getting them ahead.


Rant over - for now.


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