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2012-2015 M8000 SnoPro Skid Upgrade

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Project 2015/16 Arctic Cat M 8000 SnoPro Build - Part 2

Published online: Apr 01, 2015 Arctic Cat Steve Janes
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http://www.snowest.com/2015/04/project-201516-arctic-cat-m#

(EDITOR’S NOTE: This is the second in a series of articles about converting a 2015 Arctic Cat M 8000 SnoPro into a SnoWest Forums 2016 Project Cat giveaway sled. Throughout the summer and fall we will be working with SnoWest Forum members to build the perfect snowmobile … and then we will give it away to a Forum member at the end of the build.)

For those just joining in, last week we upgraded our 2015 Arctic Cat M 8000 front suspension with 2016 parts. This week we’re tackling the rear skid and will also update it with 2016 parts.

Once both front and rear suspensions are updated, we only have some clutching and gearing changes to transform the sled into a 2016 snowmobile for all intents and purposes. Where the new front end greatly improves handling and sidehilling, the rear skid will improve how the sled gets up on the snow and also improves the ride through the bumps.

Although we will still be using a 153x2.6 Power Claw track, we still have the option of upgrading it to a three-inch track. But as of right now, we’re not totally sold on the change. There are those who will insist on a three-inch track just because it’s deeper than the 2.6 … but after riding both this spring (in not-so-good snow conditions) we’re still debating what works best in all-around riding. (We’ll leave that argument up to the SnoWest Forums for discussion.)

So back to the rear skid.

There have been significant changes to the rear which improves its characteristics in deep snow. First, the rail profile was changed giving the front part of the rails a bigger curve radius. Rather than a longer, gradual tip up, the curve radius stays flat longer and then rolls up more abruptly. This has created more travel and better ride control.

The front arm shock is 1.25-inches longer. The shock pull rod and the idler arm are also different to match the increased length of the shock.

All of these changes are designed to allow the backend to get up on top of the snow much faster. Combine this with Cat’s Power Claw track and you find the sled coming up out of the snow and floating on top much easier.

Installation Process
1) Pulling the rear skid isn’t complicated … although it can sometimes be a little frustrating. There are only four bolts that need to be removed that attach the skid to the tunnel—two in the front where your feet are usually located near the running board and two in the rear just below the running board. (The trick is to loosen a bolt without it spinning the entire shaft. By using an air ratchet, you usually can generate enough torque to loosen the bolt. But if one side is loose and the other side spins, you may need to re-tighten the one side and break the other side free.)

2) With the skid out, you are now going to remove parts from the old skid so you can use the bolts, bushings and stuff on the new skid. This means you will need to take apart the entire skid. We approached the process by breaking down the old and building up the new as we went along so it was a matter of parts off and then parts back on. This way we didn’t have a bunch of parts laying around trying to figure out where they went.

3) If you’re installing a 2016 rear kit, it will likely involve a rear arm, two slide rails, a pull rod and two new shocks (we used the Fox Evol shocks that come with the Limited Edition kit). You will also need to extend your limiter straps to accommodate the longer shocks.

4) There will be a couple of bushings on the front mount that will need to be pressed off the old rails and then pressed on the news rails. Other than that everything pretty much comes off with wrenches.
5) Once the new skid is rebuilt, then it’s just a matter of re-installing the skid back into the chassis, tightening the bolts and re-adjusting the track tension.



Once you remove the four bolts that attach the rear skid to the tunnel, it’s just a matter of wiggling the skid out from inside the track. We lifted the backend of the sled up so everything would just drop down and out of the way.


The rails of the new skid (the black one) will have a higher mounting position for the front arms than the 2015 rails (both the silver and the green). The green ones were actually the ones we removed from our project sled … but we pulled out some silver o

You can also see the difference in the tip angle of the rails. Again, the silver ones represent 2015 and the black ones are for 2016.

As you break down the 2015 skid, you will want to put many of those parts back on the 2016 skid unless they are being replaced by parts that will come in an upgrade kit from Arctic Cat.

Once you’ve re-assembled the rear skid, take the time to grease it. It’s easier to do this while the skid is still sitting on the work bench.

Now you can wiggle the rear skid back inside the track and in position in the tunnel.

Once the skid is in place, re-attach the four bolts that secured it to the tunnel.

Now it’s time to adjust the track to ensure the proper track tension.

 

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Sweet... looking good !

"Project M16" is coming together !!!

Boards,Belt Drive,Rear bumper,Ti Can.....Done !!!!
 
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Is the rear skid upgrade available from cat? As a kit?
 

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So are you changing to the 16 front arm shock or can you just update the 15? Seems like you might as well put the 16 on since it is a float.
 

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Thought it was kind of funny you had the sled on the side to get the skid back in when in your first pic you had the arse end high enough to slam it back in (how it's easily done). I haven't done or seen it done that way in many years - just kind of a funny observation I thought. Nice build though.
 

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anyone know if the new rail profile will fit on the older m series skids or if the whole 16 skid can be retrofitted?
 
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If you’re installing a 2016 rear kit, it will likely involve a rear arm, two slide rails, a pull rod and two new shocks (we used the Fox Evol shocks that come with the Limited Edition kit). You will also need to extend your limiter straps to accommodate the longer shocks.




Front arm is the same. The rail mount is higher hence the need for the longer shock and obtaining the extra travel.

Thanks,
Woody


so in the original post it says, will likely involve a rear arm and MBMS says arm is the same?

so do we need a new arm or can we use our current arm?:noidea:
 

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If you’re installing a 2016 rear kit, it will likely involve a rear arm, two slide rails, a pull rod and two new shocks (we used the Fox Evol shocks that come with the Limited Edition kit). You will also need to extend your limiter straps to accommodate the longer shocks.







so in the original post it says, will likely involve a rear arm and MBMS says arm is the same?

so do we need a new arm or can we use our current arm?:noidea:

There are two arms in the skid, appears the front (of the two) is the same and the rear is new, probably because of the change in the pull rod.
 

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There are two arms in the skid, appears the front (of the two) is the same and the rear is new, probably because of the change in the pull rod.

The angle of the rear shock linkage that is attached to the center of the front arm is more vertical on the 2016 than years past. This means a longer shock and pull rod are needed to reach it from the upper rear suspension mount. When I saw the sled in person I noticed that the pull rod mount on the rear arm appears to be extended. This means that as the rear suspension cycles and the rear arm rotates, the pull rod will travel further, and in turn pulling the front linkage arm further back. This basically means there is more shock travel being used which often results in a better ride in addition to any improved geometry.

If you look at the 2015 Cat and Yamaha rail profiles overlaid, the Yamaha rail was the same in the front part as what Cat is claiming was changed for 2016. The 2015 Yamaha rail also had the mounting point for the rear arm a little further back. Wouldn't surprise me if the new Cat rail is that way as well. That would also explain why the longer rear arm was needed.
 

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Does anyone know the part numbers on the arm and idler that need to be replaced?
 

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dont even need the rear arm , just the link,shock and raise the mount.. rear arm is same geometry when i got the parts comparing them side by side, just a little gusset change
 
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um there was a pic somewhere on here, look around

just above the hole .75 or so

same shock length as the early 90s sleds i think
 
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