You interested in a 1100 Ken? I think if i never had the apex i would be buying one and doing the upgrades for a few more HP to try something different, but that m8 is looking tempting and i may snowcheck one though. I hoping Cat sends a couple sleds up our way up here to test. Its not so busy with tourist riding just locals so the new sleds seem to show up here out of the blue. Yamaha did with the Nytro and cat did with the M8 a few times to log miles on. So maybe the 2012 will show up i hope.