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Not that I would be in a position to confirm or deny this, but now that someone else has published it, I suppose its fair game for discussion...


http://sledrumors.com/2013/01/27/201...-launch-dates/

2014 Yamaha Snowmobiles
2014 Yamaha mountain sleds will be basically the same.

The flat-lander sleds will get all the attention for model year 2014, but the 2015 Yamaha mountain snowmobiles will make a comeback.

Watch for a 4-stroke, 200HP Mountain Max that weighs 500 pounds or less but be patient for another year.

The countdown has begun..
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you mean only 2 more year
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sorry ... not me ... way too much hype this year for a NEW sticker on a cat. Yamaha had a chance this year to make a splash and they blew it.
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sorry ... not me ... way too much hype this year for a NEW sticker on a cat. Yamaha had a chance this year to make a splash and they blew it.
until you ride one and have the same yamaha reliability as a nytro how can you say they blew it?
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I'm still standing by my word, I will be snow checking a '15 if it is anything close to what we think is in the works.

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Those rumors were over half wrong. I would totally be into a new Yamaha if it is true.
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Those rumors were over half true.

I think there is going to be a new sled in my future.
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I'm with ya. If Yamaha puts out a mountain sled with 200hp, around 500lbs from the factory, I'm ordering one.
If its a real Yamaha and not a copycat then i will be ordering one to.
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I'm hoping for a lightweight direct injected triple two-stroke and a 4-stroke factory boosted also available as well.

If they are gonna bring back the Mountain Max name it had better be a true mountain chassis and not a glorified trail sled. And it has to be a triple whether is a two or four-stroke

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of course Yamaha will have a long track viper for 2015, it is inevitable it will be a proclimb chassis with the Nytro motor probably and they will probably offer the MC express turbo as a factory installed option. This is what I want from Yamaha a viper (proclimb) with a 162"x 2.6" power claw, and a Nytro motor with yamaha clutches then put an Impulse Turbo on it about 310HP on Avgas. then you have Yamaha 4 -stroke reliability, and Big HP, Yamaha clutches, proclimb Chassis, and the new Powerclaw. Another big plus would be Raptor coil overs from the factory. I would defiinitely jump ship from Cat 2 stroke turbo to Yamaha 4 stroke Turbo- best of the best!!

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of course Yamaha will have a long track viper for 2015, it is inevitable it will be a proclimb chassis with the Nytro motor probably and they will probably offer the MC express turbo as a factory installed option. This is what I want from Yamaha a viper (proclimb) with a 162"x 2.6" power claw, yamaha clutches and a Nytro motor with yamaha clutches then put an Impulse Turbo on it about 310HP on Avgas. then you have Yamaha 4 -stroke reliability, and Big HP, Yamaha clutches, proclimb Chassis, and the new Powerclaw. Another big plus would be Raptor coil overs from the factory. I would defiinitely jump ship from Cat 2 stroke turbo to Yamaha 4 stroke Turbo- best of the best!!
That sounds a lot like my newly acquired Viper XTX next fall is going to look like! Can't wait!
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I ordered a Viper XTX as well, if/when I go to the mountains next year I have the option of putting the powerclaw track on the viper (factory track from XF highcountry model) if everything would clear underneath.

As far as the new 15 sleds go they said at the dealer meeting, in Febuary, they are coming out with a new sled with a new engine each year for the next 5 years. So time will tell!! I think its a good thing to have these two manufactuers "share technology" its good for both brands.
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Bingo! It's going to be a fun project! Lots of cool aftermarket parts out there already for the Cat Pro Climb.
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of course Yamaha will have a long track viper for 2015, it is inevitable it will be a proclimb chassis with the Nytro motor probably and they will probably offer the MC express turbo as a factory installed option. This is what I want from Yamaha a viper (proclimb) with a 162"x 2.6" power claw, yamaha clutches and a Nytro motor with yamaha clutches then put an Impulse Turbo on it about 310HP on Avgas. then you have Yamaha 4 -stroke reliability, and Big HP, Yamaha clutches, proclimb Chassis, and the new Powerclaw. Another big plus would be Raptor coil overs from the factory. I would defiinitely jump ship from Cat 2 stroke turbo to Yamaha 4 stroke Turbo- best of the best!!
That ain't asking much!!
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A few more tidbits that I came across today about the Nytro Replacement.

The new sled will be offered with a, hold your breath, a Factory 174 Looong Track option.

Brand new chassis designed and manufactured by Arctic Cat

Brand new 3 cylinder 4 stroke engine designed and manufactured by Yamaha, pulling it's new technology from the Motorcycle division's latest creations!

The engine will come factory boosted with a turbo on it.


The fate of this new sled depends on how the current partnership between Yamaha and Arctic Cat fares over the next 6 months.

Apparently there is a long list of changes that Yamaha is asking Arctic Cat to make to the Vyper Prototypes, chief among them being a resolution to the frame flex causing drive failures on Arctic Cats this season.

The long and short of it is this.
Yamaha is FORCING Arctic Cat to UP THEIR QUALITY, while Arctic Cat is forcing Yamaha to build a more time competitive sled that is not obsolete and over-engineered the day it is released after a development cycle that is entirely too long and drives up the retail price.

Like all marriages, both partners are being forced to make compromises they are not accustomed to. But the end result might be REALLY GOOD for both of them, and for us as well.

Now the bad news.
This sled is NOT scheduled to debut in 2014.
Looks like its aimed for a march 2015 debut.

So we have two more seasons of Nytro before our long awaited replacement shows itself.
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Also.
As for the MOUNTAIN MAX name.
It was suggested we should watch the Yamaha TRADEMARK to see if it gets renewed..

Renewal will come due in June 2014..



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Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: snowmobiles and structural parts therefor. FIRST USE: 19950716. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950716
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Patience ?????????? Yamaha acts like its a big deal for them to put a Nytro engine in an Arctic Cat trail sled - and its a big deal that in a year to two to get a Mountain sled out with possible boost.

Look at what Two Guys in Alberta at thier boost-it shop did in a matter of a few weeks - Bought a 1100T, pulled out the POS 1100 and put in a Nytro engine, built and installed a turbo system for it, did a few other upgrades, got it on the snow for everyone to test at Yamafest - A SMALL SHOP and in a few WEEKS not years.

Get off your azzes Yamaha and get a real boosted mountain sled out there - sooner than later - your way bigger than a small shop that gets stuff done and gets it done right in a decent time frame - or better yet maybe Just hire NM to build your next mountain beast.
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More like a bunch of crap! Their words were " 5 new sleds and motors in the next five years and a new mountain sled in model year 2015." I'm ready to switch from xtx to a mountain sled. But I really dont want to buy an mtx to only feel that I need to dump thousands more into it to make it competitive. Then have a diff chassis come out later.
I'm starting to think that YMC is spoon feeding us a bunch of lines to string us along. First they say that there's nothing more to the Yamaha/Arctic cat agreement then the 120, next it's just that AC is building the viper for YMC for 3 years. Now it's talk of another AC built sled and no mountain sled for another 2 years. It's obvious they don't care about the mountain segment, but can somehow sponsor a RMSHA team.

I know your saying to be patient, but when your ready to buy your ready!

Oh and a factory 174", waist of time in my opinion. I feel that the guys that want one will make it any ways. I don't need a sled that's as long as a semi and weighs as much as a bulldozer but hey the motor will run forever. I don't see how they could sell enough to make it worth the time to make them.

Yamaha just needs to approach polaris and skidoo and say "hey we just want to sell you motors and quit building sleds then everyone can choose what sled they want a Yamaha motor in"
Sorry but it's just the way I'm starting to feel.
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All I can offer are tidbits that come across my desk.
So far as I know Yamaha is "forging" a new long term relationship with Arctic Cat. Right now it appears they have a short term (couple of years) contract with Arctic Cat to produce the Vyper.

If that works out then it appears there is great interest in merging the skill sets of the two companies to bring something "NEW" to the market that doesn't exist right now.

We all want it Yesterday, I got it, I am right there with ya.

But the reality is, these things really do that time, and Yamaha is known to be somewhat GLACIERish in their movements...
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