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Forward steering post, nice! Rear skid has a better aproach and design, nicer!!
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I wonder what that would look like compared with the pro?
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I wonder what that would look like compared with the pro?
Thinking of the exact same thing!
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Thinking of the exact same thing!
Had to resize to match the other pics so it may be off a bit. Wasn't sure where to line them up so I went with the lower a-arm ball joint. Maybe there is a better location to line up the pro with the Doo's.

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Great job. Not much difference. The position of the steering......interesting.
The main reason that people think the xp platform doesn't work is the steering??? (biggest diference )
I should put the C3 post forward on mine.........oops, I did!

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well and the 30#'s
And the 15 hp.
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Heres an idea, throw a picture of the proclimb up and see how much the new XM and proclimb look alike!!! Wow, no wonder they sued Cat!!!

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I think im liking the rail approach.
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I cant for the life of me figure what Doo was thinking with the 2011 angle,We just replaced rails on a 2011 with Tom,s rails, They fix the upward pointed tips and 3 inches of the stock rail tip had never had any track contact,
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Dang...rear suspension mounting points cant get too much closer too the Polaris setup...
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And the 15 hp.
50 pounds and 5 horsepower not 15. And it's way easier to add power than lose weight
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Tip that bar riser back on BOTH Doo's and they'll be right about the same as the Poo....where they should be. I can't believe they have the bars all jacked forward like that for a photo shoot...LOL.
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I cant for the life of me figure what Doo was thinking with the 2011 angle,We just replaced rails on a 2011 with Tom,s rails, They fix the upward pointed tips and 3 inches of the stock rail tip had never had any track contact,
Yep...'10, 11 and 12 are like that. It was done because the '08-'09 were so difficult for people to pull over and steer on the trail so this was part of the answer...of course it made the deep snow-ability worse but who rides a mountain sled in deep snow?
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I think im liking the rail approach.
Me too, that picture might have just convinced me to buy a 13. Wasn't sure until now and will still have to demo one but I like the geometry. I was thinking I would just get a hold over 12.
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50 pounds and 5 horsepower not 15. And it's way easier to add power than lose weight
No and No...They both take approx same hit to your bank acct.
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Me too, that picture might have just convinced me to buy a 13. Wasn't sure until now and will still have to demo one but I like the geometry. I was thinking I would just get a hold over 12.
That is one of the biggest reason the Pro does so well in the fluff, it's ability to get on top of the snow....and the softer track too but it sucks in the spring snow. This looks like a good "balance".
That's my biggest issue with my '12.
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I think that a lot of weight is still a bit far forward on this chassis. Maybe just me, but I like it a bit more neutral. I also think that is part of the poo success on getting up on top of the snow is the highly centralized mass. According to these images a person would assume that the engine itself is several inches back on the poo vs doo...am I right on this?
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The comparison between the Pro and new Doo make everything line up pretty close. Would make for a tough decision. Seems wierd to be happy that I am not considering a new sled. Not sure if the new skid will work, and would really like to see Polaris have a better motor. Polaris and Doo have some nice sleds to pick from. I think the belt drive on the Pro would get me to buy it though. Just wish Cat would come up w/ something decent-just kidding. Does any one have a Rev pic they could line up also?
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Doesn't the '13 look like it sits lower, more squat, bit of a low rider?? I've always felt like they need more running board to snow clearance, especially compared to poo and more so Cat.
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Doesn't the '13 look like it sits lower, more squat, bit of a low rider?? I've always felt like they need more running board to snow clearance, especially compared to poo and more so Cat.
It is just the approach angle of the track is more graduall the height should be the same
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I think that a lot of weight is still a bit far forward on this chassis. Maybe just me, but I like it a bit more neutral. I also think that is part of the poo success on getting up on top of the snow is the highly centralized mass. According to these images a person would assume that the engine itself is several inches back on the poo vs doo...am I right on this?
They are very close....both primary clutches are just behind the shock well plastic, so by these pics they are probably within an inch of each other...???
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Doesn't the '13 look like it sits lower, more squat, bit of a low rider?? I've always felt like they need more running board to snow clearance, especially compared to poo and more so Cat.
It looks like the rear scissor angle has been located back....which lowers the rear. We do this to the older XP's with the scissor relocate brackets and it makes them work MUCH better....keeps the nose down to lessen trenching and gives the sled a more level "attitude".
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