So why do have so many groups-coalitions for bikes, sleds, 4x4s, etc?

Not sure, I think a lot may have to do with areas where different sports are more popular? I do agree though, we have some great organizations out there, some big some smaller.........why not group them together?

United we stand, divided we fall.... mmhmm.

I think that with things like NREPA/etc, more of these "coalitions" need to stand up for the common good, rather than bickering between each other. Snowmobilers, dirt bikers, mountain bikers, horseback riders, motorized and non-motorized, all these "groups" against the gov't programs would likely have more power if they stood as one.

It's a great idea but you would have to first get past the fighting over land use between the different groups.

hypnotoad said:

It's a great idea but you would have to first get past the fighting over land use between the different groups.

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Agreed.... pick the fights though. Wilderness = nobody gets it.

you have some legitimate points, 76.
this issue and idea has just recently been brought up by some peeps here in our area as well. i agree, i think we'd have a much stronger voice if all users across the board would ban together to fight a common cause. more numbers & consolidate funding instead of spreading it among dozens of groups.
a group like the BRC is a good start, now we need to raise awareness and involvement. that, to me, is a BIG problem.

solutions??????

I'm not sure on this but isnt that what the "Blue Ribbon Coaliton" is suppose to be?

OK, moco good lead-in.

Greenies aren't united. They have total different things they all stand for. Everything from Wilderness Freaks at all expense, to anti mining, to groups that just care about real pollution.

Take the Sierra Club, they want everything wilderness. But, they won't take on global population. About half their members almost quit over that. Huge war, but they now have $100 Million dollars in the bank, to fight us. They sold out. A lot of greenie groups are mad at them over that

Take BRC. They pick their fights. They don't fight for some places, but they fight hard for others. BRC also wears so many hats now adays, that eventually, their going to have to take sides.

SAWS, no more wilderness areas.

ISSA, compromise, but keep snowmobiling open, and fight for it.

A state snowmobile group that I shall not mention anymore, they just care about stupid trail riding in the mountains, not off trail riding, and will give it away in a heartbeat.

All the groups are run by people with different views.

Even the mountain bikers can't agree. Half are for making wilderness, even though they can't use it. Half are against more wilderness. And, there's rumors that they may sell out motorized, if they can get the right deal. Say, allowed to ride in all Roadless.

Horse people, some love wilderness. Some hate wilderness, because you can't get a helicopter in there, to rescue hurt riders, without a lot of red tape. Some horse riders would rather not ride than ride around moutain bikes.

It's complicated.