tips on separating diamond drive from track shaft.

predator800 · Jun 18, 2014

I'm trying to put my 2.6 track onto my 2011. I am having trouble separating the diamond drive from the jack shaft. All the right bolts have been removed. My plan is to buy rust check penetrating spray and try that. WD 40 didn't seem to work.

Any other ideas on tricks to remove would be great. And yes I have done this a few times and this is the first time it's giving me trouble.

minet · Jun 18, 2014

not sure what you know to do or not

big screwdriver or small crowbar

diggerdown · Jun 19, 2014

Put your center bolt back in then back it out 4 or 5 turns, run a heavy rod in to use as a punch and take a heavy hammer to it. They sometimes can rust in pretty tight. Don't mess with a light nail hammer, use a real hammer! PB blaster or Knocker loose are good penetrating fluids. Fluids need time to work and several applications.

predator800 · Jun 19, 2014

diggerdown said:
Put your center bolt back in then back it out 4 or 5 turns, run a heavy rod in to use as a punch and take a heavy hammer to it. They sometimes can rust in pretty tight. Don't mess with a light nail hammer, use a real hammer! PB blaster or Knocker loose are good penetrating fluids. Fluids need time to work and several applications.

Off to the city to buy some Knock-er loose. It's definitely this kind of stuck.
Thanks.

mountaincat 800 · Jun 19, 2014

Diggerdown's way and a BFH has always worked for me. I take it that you tried that?

predator800 · Jun 19, 2014

Going to try it this afternoon.

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predator800 · Jun 20, 2014

I couldn't get it off. Gave up til tomorrow nite. I tipped the sled on its side and let knock-re loose sit in the shaft for 1/2 hour. When I put it back upright the fluid poured out. I was hitting so hard, my 16 mm socket doesn't fit anymore. I have to use 17 mm.
I even had my son with two pry bars prying on the diamond drive while I was hitting the bolt. I even sprayed the outside of the shaft after prying the rubber boot open.

Next plan of attack after work and daughters soccer game is put the sled back on its side and put lots of knock-we loose in the shaft and let it soak for a day.

If I really get pissed maybe I'll just cut everything off and replace with diamond drive lite, lite weight track shaft and ceramic brake.

The diamond drive does wiggle so it's so stuck to the bulk head.

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arctic2009 · Jun 20, 2014

predator800 said:
I couldn't get it off. Gave up til tomorrow nite. I tipped the sled on its side and let knock-re loose sit in the shaft for 1/2 hour. When I put it back upright the fluid poured out. I was hitting so hard, my 16 mm socket doesn't fit anymore. I have to use 17 mm.
I even had my son with two pry bars prying on the diamond drive while I was hitting the bolt. I even sprayed the outside of the shaft after prying the rubber boot open.

Next plan of attack after work and daughters soccer game is put the sled back on its side and put lots of knock-we loose in the shaft and let it soak for a day.

If I really get pissed maybe I'll just cut everything off and replace with diamond drive lite, lite weight track shaft and ceramic brake.

The diamond drive does wiggle so it's so stuck to the bulk head.

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You sure you have all the nuts off the diamond drive? I believe there are 8 nuts total.

Thunder101 · Jun 20, 2014

ippielb · Jun 20, 2014

if you have access to an air compressor i'd try and borrow a air hammer and put a fat end on it and just let the thing vibrate the shaft off. If anyones taken the torsion bars off a chevy truck to put leveling keys on they probably know what i'm talking about.

predator800 · Jun 20, 2014

ippielb said:
if you have access to an air compressor i'd try and borrow a air hammer and put a fat end on it and just let the thing vibrate the shaft off. If anyones taken the torsion bars off a chevy truck to put leveling keys on they probably know what i'm talking about.

I like this idea. I'll still let knock-re loose sit for a day first.

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predator800 · Jun 20, 2014

arctic2009 said:
You sure you have all the nuts off the diamond drive? I believe there are 8 nuts total.

Positive

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HIDY · Jun 20, 2014

what about the bolt lol

av8er · Jun 21, 2014

After removing all of the bolts and the Trackshaft

I tipped the sled on it's side a took a 2-3 foot long 2x4 placed it onn the round part of the DD and pounded it off with a 2 lb mallet, Is it safe to asume that you have removed the small aluminum plate in front of the toe hold area. there are 4 small torx head bolts you must remove to take out the aluminum plate.

predator800 · Jun 21, 2014

av8er said:
I tipped the sled on it's side a took a 2-3 foot long 2x4 placed it onn the round part of the DD and pounded it off with a 2 lb mallet, Is it safe to asume that you have removed the small aluminum plate in front of the toe hold area. there are 4 small torx head bolts you must remove to take out the aluminum plate.

Yep got that plate off. Not much room to get a 2x4 in there put doable. Since I didn't find an air hammer yet. I'll give it a try tonite

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predator800 · Jun 21, 2014

Still defeated. 2x4 totally mutilated. No damage diamond drive. Lol. Tomorrow might be able to get air hammer. I may just have to do the walk of shame and take it to a shop if that doesn't work.

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av8er · Jun 24, 2014

wow-

sounds like a bear, you have taken the center bolt out of the inside of the jackshaft right????

predator800 · Jun 24, 2014

av8er said:
sounds like a bear, you have taken the center bolt out of the inside of the jackshaft right????

Yep. Decide to leave it alone for a couple days. I bent the bolt hammering on it while it was half unscrewed. Tackle it again on Thursday when I no so tempted to take a saw all to it.
Bolt cost $12 here and had to order it.

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Thunder101 · Jun 25, 2014

So the drive shaft is still on right?
Make sure your track is not holding the drive shaft (drivers through the track windows)
Hitting the bolt with long solid shaft sounded like it should have done the trick
But I guess not.
Making sure the drivers are free of the track try beating on the brake end of the drive shaft with a 3lb dead blow hammer

predator800 · Jun 25, 2014

Thunder101 said:
So the drive shaft is still on right?

Make sure your track is not holding the drive shaft (drivers through the track windows)

Hitting the bolt with long solid shaft sounded like it should have done the trick

But I guess not.

Making sure the drivers are free of the track try beating on the brake end of the drive shaft with a 3lb dead blow hammer

Yes the track shaft is still seized to the diamond drive. Hitting the bolt might work next time but I will have to use a new bolt has I bent this one. Attacking this problem Thursday afternoon. One more night shift to work first.

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