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What is the difference between the two sleds if anyone knows about the diffs it would be greatly appreciated. Going to buy a 08 600 iqr so i was just curious thanx
Difference between a 08 600 iqr and a 600 iqrr
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Engines mostly and the suspension calibration.
The 600 RR has the standard oil injected 600 HO like in the consumer sleds... 64mm stroke.
The 600 Racer has a premix (no oil injection) race specific motor with a 70mm stroke....
The Shock and suspension calibration is set differently on the two.
Some other minor differences too like the RR has a 8.5 gallon tank, the Racer has a much smaller one.
The 600 RR has the standard oil injected 600 HO like in the consumer sleds... 64mm stroke.
The 600 Racer has a premix (no oil injection) race specific motor with a 70mm stroke....
The Shock and suspension calibration is set differently on the two.
Some other minor differences too like the RR has a 8.5 gallon tank, the Racer has a much smaller one.
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hey thanks alot mountainhorse i appreciate your reply i couldnt really find any specs on the 600 r as i could the rr
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does the r have reverse?
No it does not, there have been a couple people that have claimed to have put it on it. I think Carl's have done it to a couple customers sleds using parts from a 800 CFI engine.
The great thing about the 600r engine is it runs basically the same crank as the 800 cfi so slapping a 800 monoblock clylinder on a 600r bottom = 800r engine, which if going through this thread you will find alot of guys have done that. Realitively affordable big bore with great power abbilities.
The great thing about the 600r engine is it runs basically the same crank as the 800 cfi so slapping a 800 monoblock clylinder on a 600r bottom = 800r engine, which if going through this thread you will find alot of guys have done that. Realitively affordable big bore with great power abbilities.
Isn't the RR motor the carbed version of the 600? Just saying...adding the mono block to the bottom end is just part of that mess.
2008 600rr = 600 ho (carbed)
2008 600IQR = 600r (carbed)
2008+ 800 CFI = 800 (CFI)
I really don't know what you are trying to say in that last message, carbed version of what engine? The 600 CFI, close but no. 600 HO engines have been around since 2006 (maybe even made in 05, and are carbed). The HO was the replacement for the 600 VES (01-05, carbed) engine. The HO had slightly different porting with more crank and intake volume. Now in 2008 they came out with the 600r that has 70mm crank (same as the 08+ 800 CFI). What you might have been infering to was the 800 CFI problems that might follow if you put it on the carbed lower end. Lots, and lots of testing has been done with these 600r/800 monoblock to carb conversions and they rip for one, and two are getting great, great reliability. Like has been said before, if you take the time you can get a carbed sled to perform better than a injected one.
P.S. You probably know all this, doing a little drinking and typing and just went on a tangent.
2008 600IQR = 600r (carbed)
2008+ 800 CFI = 800 (CFI)
I really don't know what you are trying to say in that last message, carbed version of what engine? The 600 CFI, close but no. 600 HO engines have been around since 2006 (maybe even made in 05, and are carbed). The HO was the replacement for the 600 VES (01-05, carbed) engine. The HO had slightly different porting with more crank and intake volume. Now in 2008 they came out with the 600r that has 70mm crank (same as the 08+ 800 CFI). What you might have been infering to was the 800 CFI problems that might follow if you put it on the carbed lower end. Lots, and lots of testing has been done with these 600r/800 monoblock to carb conversions and they rip for one, and two are getting great, great reliability. Like has been said before, if you take the time you can get a carbed sled to perform better than a injected one.
P.S. You probably know all this, doing a little drinking and typing and just went on a tangent.
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I was just stating that there is more to making the 600 RR motor (carbed) into an 800 CFI motor (electronics, fuel injection, ect).
By the way, If I remember correctly the 2008 was both carbed (144" model) and CFI (155" model).
By the way, If I remember correctly the 2008 was both carbed (144" model) and CFI (155" model).
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Drive shafts are different also, don't plan on pounding the rr to much without putting the shaft the racer has, you ll bust a few chains gears chain cases trust me...
Hmm, I think you got lost somewhere. You can't make a 600rr engine a 800 CFI or even a 800r engine, wrong crank. The engine I am talking about is the 08 600r engine that you make a 800r by putting the top end off of a 800 CFI. I was not giving advice on how to make a 600rr a CFI engine, again that is basically impossible. Again the 2008 600RR (consumer model of the race sled IQR) came with the 600 HO engine, yes Carls makes a big bore 800+ kit for it but that is completely different cylinders and crank and they are nothing like the 800 CFI monoblock cylinders that you plug the holes and slap on top of a 600 R engine. When you do put the 08+ 800 CFI monoblock cylinders on top of a 600 r (08+ IQR Race Engine) engine (70mm crank) along with other necessary items (head, guillotines, exhaust, etc, reprogrammed CDI) you end up with what is considered the 800 r Monoblock Conversion.
Actually if your doing a mountain conversion (this is SNOWEST) you get rid of the slipper shaft because it will not work correctly with a long track, they slip constantly and end up frying. Thats why you see so many of them for sale. The RR shaft is fine except it doesn't have anti-ratchet drivers on it stock and the IQR did. The slipper shaft really is only good for Sno-X applications where you are on the gas heavy every landing. I have beat my IQR without the slipper shaft around the track and didn't have any issues (I also weigh 240+). Just watch your chain tension and replace chain every year if you are hard on the rr.
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rr has one more r, duh.
rr has a large rear cooler and shortened strip coolers.
r engine has a CFI engine case, rr has old HO case (large reed cage bosses)
Actually don't think they are shorter coolers. You can run the same cooler kit on a IQR, puts it in the same place.
And cases aren't actually the same. If in a bind you can slightly modify the 800 CFI case to work with the 600r crank,topend. Ran into this last year when Polaris was backordered on the 600r cases and buddy through a rod.
And cases aren't actually the same. If in a bind you can slightly modify the 800 CFI case to work with the 600r crank,topend. Ran into this last year when Polaris was backordered on the 600r cases and buddy through a rod.
