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I have heard there is a possible new oiling system for the boondocker turbo coming for the fall of 2014 if it is ready in time. Anyone have any more info on this ?
New Boondocker Oiling System Info ?
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It sounds like they are using the sleds oil pump like MTN TEK is.
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I think total saving of 4lbs plus or minus an oz. Although it you run their new water to air intercooler, its adds the weight back on. Either way a very cool offset.
Not to try and stir up a hornets nest but wasn't MTNTK in the patent process of this oiling method?
Or did that fall through?
Or did that fall through?
Not sure on patents, but I'm pretty sure they weren't the first to ever do this on a 2 stroke anyway, maybe the first to do it large scale but I'm pretty sure it's been done.
Mtntk runs it through the turbo then injects it back in the intake of the turbo to optimize the oil or something IIRC
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Yes, they have a different option now.
Yeah I knew that. First doesn't always mean anything in the world of patents though. There's a head out there, oh nevermind.
That's probably the correct explanation Iceman.
My one concern with running the oil as MTNTK and Boondocks are doing is if running a water to air intercooler, the oil will coat the inside of the intercooler and reduce the efficiency of the system. The oil would also tend to attract particulates?? Reeds can look pretty dirty so I assume the intercooler would do the same (dirty) with oil injected into compressor inlet.
Just thinking out loud.
Just thinking out loud.
Would,nt this be true with any oil lubricated turbo if the seals were leaking?
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That doesn't optimize oiling, and would cause puddling of oil and wear out the compressor inlet.
Preintercooler injection of any fluid doesn't work (and can be very dangerous) as fluid won't stay atomized through the intercooler and will cause puddling and coat the intercooler/compressor/charge pipe in oil.
Yep. If the seals are leaking this would be the same. But they inject Oil all the time compared to seals leaking. If turbo is in good condition the seals leak very little if any.
But gunnerthesnowman you are correct.
Inspector01 comment I agree. That's why I have my reservations about MTNTK or anyone using the stock oil pump and putting the oil from the turbo bearings into the intake of the compressor when using an intercooler.
on the duramax the crank vent goes to the turbo mouthpiece and many have had their intercoolers plug and blow the boots off the hotside from the restriction. i dont like the idea on a sled or my truck. i ran my vent down to the frame rail. i think the reeds benefit from being lubed but there is a kit for that also
Spoke with BD a while back about this , 2 different times , 2 different people , 2 different answers.
First guy said the oil just get pumped to the turbo and "burns off" on the bearings. Not draining back to the motor , nor getting injected in the air intake.
Second guy said oil gets pumped to the turbo then drains out the bottom of the turbo and fed back into the motor.
Either way neither said it was getting injected to the air intake.
So will see shortly once the kits ship , BD said they will have update kits available once they ship out there kits.
First guy said the oil just get pumped to the turbo and "burns off" on the bearings. Not draining back to the motor , nor getting injected in the air intake.
Second guy said oil gets pumped to the turbo then drains out the bottom of the turbo and fed back into the motor.
Either way neither said it was getting injected to the air intake.
So will see shortly once the kits ship , BD said they will have update kits available once they ship out there kits.
Makes the most sense to have it run through the turbo, drain Into a oil tank then to the motor. Then you would just use the turbo oil tank as your injection oil tank and fill as needed.
Would eliminate any vent issues with the stock tank. But the turbo oil tanks I've seen aren't big. So would have to fill it every ride prolly.
From a cost and simplicity stand point it make sense to use what it already there (OEM tank).
Yes.
So does the turbo pedestal have a fitting for a oil line on it?
I've never checked to see if the oil system in the turbo is free flowing or does it have some restriction?
Would a filter be a good idea after it leaves the turbo?
My friend just got his new boony kit this week. He's installing it this weekend. I'll take a look and some pics tomorrow and post back here with what I find.
Going on a 2014 assault 155.
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