How about it? :face-icon-small-hap
Snowest...we need a rev XM section
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Not to be a downer, but whats the real difference between the XM and XP? The running boards??
Joe
Joe
Don't forget the boat hull!
R
Yup! New XM Section.
I agree Brew! Should be a great year, and I mite be on 13 in the next week:face-icon-small-hap
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not to bragggggg to much but spent the day treating proclimbs and prolaris's like toy sleds, and i ride a 2010 Xp X....... the xm should be bar none the best sled on the snow, once again!
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Coming from someone with DOO in forum name, that's unexpected. lol!
Really? A new section because it has tilting suspension and a heated glovebox?
I was expecting more from BRP, and hardly think this machine requires its own section.
I was expecting more from BRP, and hardly think this machine requires its own section.
Same
Same e module and s module correct? Same tunnel? I hope it is awesome. Id love to ride doo again but i ride close to pinecones.
Same e module and s module correct? Same tunnel? I hope it is awesome. Id love to ride doo again but i ride close to pinecones.
XM Weight?
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Their facebook said same as '12. Disappointing aspect there. I like everything else they have done though.
No, because it has a ported snow flap, LED tailight and a super gay looking pow deflector.
Seriously though, some cool ideas being brought to life but facts are facts. Same HP, same weight. but yet in every Norona video I saw, BRP was touting increased power to weight. Now, I'm no mathmatician expert, but there are two factors in power to weight. Power and weight. Now Power has to be increased or Weight has to be decreased for this ration to improve. So, since these two factors remain unchanged how does one conclude an increase in P2W?
The "M" and the "P" are different. :behindsofa:
About as much change as there was from the Dragon to the Pro....OK, maybe that a bit of a stretch, but same basic engine and drivetrain while the rest of the sled is different enough in the susp. and plastic to warrant a whole new forum section full of issues to deal with. :face-icon-small-win
About as much change as there was from the Dragon to the Pro....OK, maybe that a bit of a stretch, but same basic engine and drivetrain while the rest of the sled is different enough in the susp. and plastic to warrant a whole new forum section full of issues to deal with. :face-icon-small-win
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464 for the 154 and 472 for the 163. So the pro has 50 pounds on them
Not saying the Doo is lighter then the Poo, but power to weight
Doo 154 @ 464lb/ 163hp 2.86lb per 1hp
Doo 163 @ 472lb/ 163hp 2.89lb per 1hp
Poo 155 @ 417lb/ 140hp 2.97lb per 1hp
Not sure if the real weight of the Poo is really 417 but has to be close, and yes it will be a great sled just like the Doo, But after riding the 12 / 163 ETEC this weekend in 3' plus of fresh powder, i'm hooked, that sled flat ripps, and with the refinements made on the 13, there will be one if not two in my garage this fall! and yes these new XM's are different from the XP's and cant wait to ride it!
Doo 154 @ 464lb/ 163hp 2.86lb per 1hp
Doo 163 @ 472lb/ 163hp 2.89lb per 1hp
Poo 155 @ 417lb/ 140hp 2.97lb per 1hp
Not sure if the real weight of the Poo is really 417 but has to be close, and yes it will be a great sled just like the Doo, But after riding the 12 / 163 ETEC this weekend in 3' plus of fresh powder, i'm hooked, that sled flat ripps, and with the refinements made on the 13, there will be one if not two in my garage this fall! and yes these new XM's are different from the XP's and cant wait to ride it!
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On the same dyno on the same day there is a 6 hp difference not 23 so I'll use the right number.
Pro 155 at 417 pounds and 146 hp= 2.86 pounds/hp
Summit 154 at 464 pounds and 152 hp= 3.05 pounds/hp
And the pro make more hp to track so let's line them up
First. You wil NEVER NEVER NEVER get an honest hp number from Cat, Poo or Doo.
Second. The Etec does have more power than the Pro. You can feel it.
Third. You will NEVER NEVER NEVER get an honest weight number from Cat, Poo or Doo
But for me 417 pounds is a pretty tough one to believe. What was sacrificed for weight. When Doo said the XP was 450ish pound they got hammered and the pinecone jokes came to be.
So what/where did Poo put 50 pounds? That's alot of weight to shed for stock sleds. The exhaust still looks pig heavy, so that leads me to believe it got shaved here and there on the chassis. Pretty scary, IMO. And no, the chaincase wasn't that heavy. So when do we start the stiff wind jokes about the Pro? LOL, just kidding.
I have a friend that built a 800cc PRO that weighed in at 389 and to achieve that he spent hours and dollars doing it. I have no idea how much tho.
Second. The Etec does have more power than the Pro. You can feel it.
Third. You will NEVER NEVER NEVER get an honest weight number from Cat, Poo or Doo
But for me 417 pounds is a pretty tough one to believe. What was sacrificed for weight. When Doo said the XP was 450ish pound they got hammered and the pinecone jokes came to be.
So what/where did Poo put 50 pounds? That's alot of weight to shed for stock sleds. The exhaust still looks pig heavy, so that leads me to believe it got shaved here and there on the chassis. Pretty scary, IMO. And no, the chaincase wasn't that heavy. So when do we start the stiff wind jokes about the Pro? LOL, just kidding.
I have a friend that built a 800cc PRO that weighed in at 389 and to achieve that he spent hours and dollars doing it. I have no idea how much tho.
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