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Old 12-16-2007, 01:44 PM
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im riddin 4500-5000 on a 07 m8 with 75gr lite tip weights stock yel/wite primary, 44/40 cam with orange spring. wen im boondockin the revs will go to 7 or 7200 than climb up to 7500, so im thinkin i need a prim spring with a little more pre load to help with the bottom end and get to 7500 faster. so i need a chart or some ideas on wat i should use. in a few weeks im gonna install rkt head and sec clutch kit ,but in the mean time i want to dial her in for the christmas break.

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I would try some lighter weights first...maybe 73's.....
What is your target RPM?
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i ran 73gr heavy tip last year and was pullin up to 7800, the new o8s r usin 75 grs so i think im close. my boys m7 r usin 73s with no problem getting 7700. i tryin to get 74-7500 rpms

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Here is all the numbers I have. All of them.......


Super Torquer
• Yellow 160-290
• Gold 190-340
• Black 170-360

Erlandson
Primary (Drive) Springs
Color Part # 2-1/2" Load 1-1/4" Load
Gold PS-13
190 lbs 335 lbs
Maroon PS-14
185 lbs 320 lbs
Pink PS-11
185 lbs 300 lbs
Yellow PS-7
165 lbs 310 lbs
Silver PS-6
165 lbs 300 lbs
Red PS-5
145 lbs 300 lbs
Black PS-4
145 lbs 280 lbs
Green PS-12
145 lbs 260 lbs
Brown PS-3
125 lbs 300 lbs
White PS-2
125 lbs 280 lbs
Orange PS-1
125 lbs 260 lbs

Goodwin Perf.
• 420-505 Purple 140-360
• 420-508 Lime 165-275
• 420-506 Red 170-305
• 420-501 Black 180-330
• 420-509 Blue 140-310
Bikeman Performance
• BMPPS1 140-300
• BMPPS2 150-300
• BMPPS3 160-300
• BMPPS4 170-300

OEM Arctic Cat
• Red 74-228
• Yellow/Green 114-267
• Purple 121-240
• Yellow/White 122-285
• Orange/White 143-290



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Suggested list price CDN $35.00 Suggested list price US $29.95

Dalton clutch springs are manufactured from high quality chrome silicon wire to exacting tolerances, stress relived and shot peened for long lasting durability.
Polaris/Arctic Primary Springs
Part # Pre Load (lb) @ 2.5" Pre Load (lb) @ 2.375" Pre Load (lb) @ 1.375" Total Force (lb) @ 1.25"
Dalton Black/ Red-white DPPS-B/R/W 147 lb 153 lb 290 lb 310 lb
Dalton Red/ Black DPPS-RB 150 lb 165 lb 300 lb 320 lb
Arctic Cat Drive and Driven Clutch Springs

We keep in stock a wide selection of high quality Drive and Driven Clutch springs from D&D Powersports and Cutler Performance.
D & D Primary: CPC Primary: CPC Secondary: D & D Secondary: D & D Secondary Spring ACT Drive:
Teal - 185/295
Green - 195/295
Black - 190/330
Orange - 170/305
Blue - 170/265
Yellow - 160/290
White - 135/330
Red - 170/330 Purple/White 180/320 Black/White - LIGHT
Blue/White - TO
Red/White - HEAVY Black - LIGHT
Silver - TO
Purple - HEAVY Tan - 110/320
Maroon - 130/340
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200-010

Teal Drive Spring 185/295 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-011

Green Drive Spring 195/295 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-016

Black Drive Spring 190/330 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-017

Orange Drive Spring 170/305 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-018

Blue Drive Spring 170/265 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-019

Yellow Drive Spring 160/290 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-022

Red Primary Spring 170/330 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]





Aaen Primary Racing Clutch Springs
High silicone shot-peened and powder coated clutch springs for tuning Polaris, Arctic Cat and Comet Clutches.

Part no. Description Eng.
Pre-Load Lbs. Full
Shift
Lbs. Rate lbs./in. Price



AAS11054 Orange 120 290 127 $25.00
AAS10034 Purple 150 320 127 $25.00
AAS10038 Yellow 150 380 172 $25.00
AAS10039 Grey 165 280 92 $25.00
AAS10040 Yel / Red 165 310 116 $25.00
AAS10043 White 170 330 128 $25.00
AAS10041 Maroon 185 320 108 $25.00
AAS10042 Gold 190 335 116 $25.00



Arctic Cat ACT Secondary Springs

Erlandson Perf.
Secondary (Driven) Springs
•Fine tune shift rate and full shift out poundage.
•Designed from the highest quality material.
•All EPI springs manufactured using a 5% tolerance.
•ISO 900 Certified.
Sec Springs for 2005-06 Diamond Drive Encapsulated helix
Color Part # 2.2" Load 1.1" Load
Blue ACD2
155 lbs 240 lbs
Maroon ACD3
160 lbs 260 lbs
Green ACD4
200 lbs 285 lbs


OEM Arctic Cat Diamond Drive
Orange 0648-774 175-280
White 110-280
Green 110-290

Goodwin Perf.
• Blue/Orange 185-315
• Blue 215-315
• Blue/White 220-335
• Blue/Red 250-335
• Blue/Yellow 235-335

D & D Racing

Springs


200-025

180/360# DRIVEN GOLD SPRING FOR DIRECT DRIVE $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-023

Tan Direct Drive Secondary Spring 110/320 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]

200-024

Maroon Direct Drive Secondary Spring 130/340 $18.00
[ $17.10 ]



Some of the DD springs avail...

SPRING @2.9" @1.6" Rate (lb/in) Comments

DnD mrn 130 340 162 Tested rate
DnD gold 180 360 Adv. rate
DnD tan 110 320 Adv. rate
Chubby blk? 145 390 188 Avail from snowest user chubby, rate unconf.
EPI mrn 120 215 73 Tested rate (adv. rate 160-260)
FBP mrn/pnk 165 265 77 Adv. rate. Looks and feels same as EPI maroon...
AC wht DD 110 280 131 Tests very close to adv. rate
AC grn DD 110 290 138 Adv. rate
Gdwn dk blu 178 269 70 RER spring, Tested rate, good spring with 44/40
Gdwn blu/w 155 285 100 RER spring, Tested rate, another good spring
Gdwn blu/red 200 310 85 RER spring, Adv. rate
Gdwn blu/ylo 220 330 85 RER spring, Adv. rate
AC Ti. 110 260 115 Adv. rate
Team r/pnk 140 260 92 Adv. rate
AC plat. 100 200 77 Adv. rate
AC org. 175 280 81 Adv. rate

Not listed, new goodwin springs, listed on web cataloge without rates, some FBP springs, rated at 2.2"and 1.1" (useless numbers), some EPI springs, same problem, and lots of RER springs that might work, but not sure on. The Team springs require an adapter. Goodwin RER springs work fine in my 2005 without mods.



Fett Brother Racing
Maroon/Pink HSAE201 165-269
Blue/White HSAE202 152-245
Green/White HSAE204 198-288


Low level clutch kit that works crazzy good in the M7 and F7
58/38 helix
200/310 secondary spring Goodwin Dark blue
77 gram weights
140/360 purple primary Goodwin spring too.





F7 set up that seem to work the best.
D&D 54/50 helix and moroon spring 130/340
D&D red primary spring.
Dalton adjustable weights adjust to your sled.


Feel free to copy and save.........

Cheers Don.
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Where is the OEM Arctic Cat Gold drive spring?
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Don,

Where is the OEM Arctic Cat Gold drive spring?
2-3/8" tension is 130, the 1-3/8" tension is 295, the wire is .207, the height is 3-1/2"

I think this is it.

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tks don for all that info, its way more than i expected, now i have to decide wat company to buy from and wat spring

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My chart (pdf file and won't load) shows the a/c gold spring
2-9/16" = 75lbs.
1-5/16" = 275lbs
pm me with your e-mail and I can send you this chart
I run this spring w/ cutler adjustable weights 74-75 gr.
Low engagment like.....+ or - 3200 rpm and helps starting in deep w/o trenching. It makes reverse interesting sometimes LOL
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DonoBBD your another one with knowledge on cats.What you think of this on an m8, 73 grm wieghts primary and 44/40 helix and stock springs in both, for running 6-9000, any input would be appreaciated thanks.
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i am no expert but throw away that helix and try a 42/36 or staight 36 with a new primary new spring 120 \320 and leave the weights.
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I am currently running a 36 helix in my 06 M7plus pushing about 182hp and am looking at getting a different helix. Some of my buddies are running the 44/40 in the M8s but said my sled pulls hard enough to go with a 46/38. any suggestions?
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m7plus are your buddys happy with there 44/40,set up.Sorry dont now about the 46/38
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The 44/40 works great on the M8. They launch out of the hole, pull hard, and actually hold back alot better comming down than stock clutching.
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thanks for your input, hows things in hinton must be good areas to ride there.Not much for snow down here yet,I think we all need SNOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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anyone know the part # to the gold AC primary spring, and also where to get one, my dealer can't seem to get one from Cat
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Ordered two gold springs a week ago. Was hoping to have them this week for our Snowies trip but the holidays screwed everything up.

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This thread has a ton of good stuff in it, but i am wondering almost 2 years later how your setups have evolved? I am trying to setup the wifes sled (2007 M8 153) and need a tried and true baseline. Thanks

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I have a 08 m1k and it came with a black /red and have no clue who makes it any ideas? the clutch is set up well and would like to find a replacement.
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I have a 08 m1k and it came with a black /red and have no clue who makes it any ideas? the clutch is set up well and would like to find a replacement.

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