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TheJett29
03-15-2011, 11:31 PM
I have been hearing alot of complaining of the weight of these new 4 strokes. When I added a turbo to a 2010 M8 it added about 58 pounds to the sled. So we know that the 1100T is roughly 80 pounds more than a M8 stock. So what I am getting at is for this kind of horsepower the weight is not going to be a deal breaker I don't feel, especially where they have this engine sitting in the chassis.

Just my two cents, but I think this new turbo, for an out of the box sled, is going to rock.
:face-icon-small-coo

JBIZ
03-15-2011, 11:35 PM
Well said. I was thinking the same thing myself

Insaneboltrounder/sjohns
03-15-2011, 11:38 PM
Added 55??????? Really?? I always thought it was close to break even +or- 10 lbs

Dartos
03-15-2011, 11:39 PM
Interesting. In speaking to several turbo vendors last fall at the SLC snowmobile show I was told to expect about 30-35 pounds to be added.

Who's kit do you have installed?
Do you have an intercooler?

SILVERCAT
03-15-2011, 11:45 PM
I was told that it was about 10 extra from stock for my kit. And I know its not 55 cause the whole thing wouldnt weight that much and theres a bunch of stock junk that hits the trash.

backcountryislife
03-16-2011, 12:31 AM
I think you're taking the shipped weight of your kit without taking into consideration the stock stuff that silvercat mentioned.

can gone, plenum gone, airbox gone... boost adds weight for sure,but it does replace some other stuff.

if it's a 58 lb kit, I'd guess you're actually adding 25 or so lbs? (guessing here)

I know a BD kit says "shipped weight of 65", but it adds nowhere near that.

TheJett29
03-16-2011, 12:32 AM
the turbo and cooler with all the hardware was around 65 pounds. I couldn't believe it was this much but afraid the scale wouldn't lie. Expected different results myself. Maybe I bought the wrong brand? Has anyone else actually weighed before and after, not just what some salesman told them?

Going West
03-16-2011, 01:06 AM
I would never have guessed 65 pounds, is that with a intercooler. I would have thought closer to 35 or 40 at tops.

elvis1280
03-16-2011, 01:26 AM
65lbs? On a 2010 M8 stock, A boondocker pump gas kit w/o the intercooler will add maybe 15lbs. you subtract
-22 lbs muffler
-12 lbs intake, hood pieces and nose box

Erik at vohk told me its a wash? you dont hardly gain anyweight, but he is removing headlights, smaller windshield etc. I think +15 lbs is max

w4cstriker
03-16-2011, 01:51 AM
Was told the weight be close to a m1000 this fall from a rep telling a dealer,who knows it would be nice!!

jasn179
03-16-2011, 07:14 AM
according to a arctic cat insider i know the weight of the m1100 turbo will be close to 560 lbs dry

colorado logger
03-16-2011, 07:33 AM
Where is Wyoming T/A, He would of taken his scale and fork lift to the expo.

izzni
03-16-2011, 07:44 AM
560 / 470 = 1.19 or 19% more weight
177 / 125 = 1.41 or 41% more power at 10,000 feet
That seems like a pretty good deal if you are looking for more power, and want to actually ride the thing instead of constantly fixing it.

As for where the weight comes from, here's a guess:
800 to 1000 added 19 lbs.
1000 to 1100 probably adds 10 lbs then?
So 30 pounds for extra displacement.

It has a valve train, 20 lbs probably.

It has a battery, 10 lbs or something.

A starter, 15 pounds.

A Turbo and intercooler 15 lbs.

I probably just found 90 lbs of either stuff you can't avoid, or don't want to avoid. Frankly I've had to roll my sled and end up pulling on the damn starter rope 10 to 15 times to unflood and start the thing that I'm ready for electric start.

BIG JOHN
03-16-2011, 10:00 AM
according to a arctic cat insider i know the weight of the m1100 turbo will be close to 560 lbs dry

560 lbs shipped weight and 180 hp stock....add a chip/can of your choice and its 225+ hp and 550 lbsor less...thats pretty good numbers for that kinda of power/reliability...BJ

hey ski-doo heres a timeline to match cats...

2009 = NA 1200
2010 = supercharged 1200 Mach Z (basically same package from sea-doos)
2011 = SC1200 163 Summit X

Crazyj614
03-16-2011, 10:23 AM
Where is Wyoming T/A, He would of taken his scale and fork lift to the expo.
Don't you have a tree to cut down, or a topend to rebuild? ;-)

On a serious note, I think that the true weight to power ratio combined with the reliability and warranty are gonna prove to be too tempting for my wallet to stay in my pocket!

J

KMMAC
03-16-2011, 11:57 AM
I think we will know more after all of the shows and final production pieces have been put in place. Also,, you know that the after market has or will soon be getting some of these sleds to work with for some light parts especially for the 4s,

powpow
03-16-2011, 12:29 PM
is the 4 stroke a cat built motor or a suzuki built motor?

Crazyj614
03-16-2011, 02:28 PM
is the 4 stroke a cat built motor or a suzuki built motor?

I'm trying to find this out now and will post as soon as I get the return call!

Vern
03-16-2011, 03:31 PM
a rep at the west yellowstone expo told us that the new proclimb 800 is within 5 lbs of last years m8 and depending which rep we talked to we was told the 1100T is 60-75lbs heavier than the 800. i dont know exactly what last years m8 weighed to do the math, but one rep said the 1100T should be in the 530-535lb range. if it is 60-75 lbs heavier, from what i saw just removing the can should make up half of that. the can on the 1100T is HUGE, fills the hole right side when you open the side panel thats all you see.

Chubby
03-16-2011, 03:40 PM
There looks to be Alot of weight savings in the muffler alone, I watched a Utube vid and the silencer looks huge. But As Big John said above And I agree The power to weight at 10000 ft looks good. This of Coarse Coming From a dumb Flatlander

Chubby
03-16-2011, 03:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zUFmK8rDwDA&vq=medium#t=21

highmark18
03-16-2011, 04:09 PM
Putting a turbo on a M8 is basically a wash in weight, but what would I know, I have only done 2 of them LOL

Hilly
03-16-2011, 04:14 PM
The Turbo 1100 is built by Suzuki but was designed by cat specifically for a snowmobile.

GlennRMK
03-16-2011, 08:00 PM
I can tell you first hand its closer to a wash with a Boondocker race gas kit on a 2010 or 2011 M8.

I weighed the turbo and oil tank on our UPS scale. About 18 lbs. Stock muffler is 23 lbs. So you save 5 lbs.

Factor in that you lose the stock intake plenum but gain an intercooler, charge tube and itty bitty muffler you gotta be close to even. Maybe even save a couple pounds.

YOU ARE NO WERE NEAR ADDING 55 lbs.

proballs
03-16-2011, 08:51 PM
540lbs - d&d muffler +10-20hp -14lbs - boondocker hijacker up to 290hp on 23 lbs of boost. These engines are awesome and tuneable. just need head studs and aftermarket intercooler to run high boost applications. These motors and turbo are good to 23 lbs of boost stock! upgrade to a garret 2860 and different controller over 24lbs boost and up to 400 hp awsome!

JoNEs34
03-17-2011, 01:20 AM
540lbs - d&d muffler +10-20hp -14lbs - boondocker hijacker up to 290hp on 23 lbs of boost. These engines are awesome and tuneable. just need head studs and aftermarket intercooler to run high boost applications. These motors and turbo are good to 23 lbs of boost stock! upgrade to a garret 2860 and different controller over 24lbs boost and up to 400 hp awsome!

If thats true then that is a retarded amount of boost for that little engine. Thats not too far from my diesel truck. Im sure something like that would put a big ole :scared: :heh: on my face.

psychosledder73
03-17-2011, 11:02 PM
a rep at the west yellowstone expo told us that the new proclimb 800 is within 5 lbs of last years m8 and depending which rep we talked to we was told the 1100T is 60-75lbs heavier than the 800. i dont know exactly what last years m8 weighed to do the math, but one rep said the 1100T should be in the 530-535lb range. if it is 60-75 lbs heavier, from what i saw just removing the can should make up half of that. the can on the 1100T is HUGE, fills the hole right side when you open the side panel thats all you see.

DD straight pipe lol

psychosledder73
03-17-2011, 11:11 PM
a rep at the west yellowstone expo told us that the new proclimb 800 is within 5 lbs of last years m8 and depending which rep we talked to we was told the 1100T is 60-75lbs heavier than the 800. i dont know exactly what last years m8 weighed to do the math, but one rep said the 1100T should be in the 530-535lb range. if it is 60-75 lbs heavier, from what i saw just removing the can should make up half of that. the can on the 1100T is HUGE, fills the hole right side when you open the side panel thats all you see.

DD straight pipe lol

wiley75
03-21-2011, 08:42 PM
DD straight pipe lol


That'd be good for our sport. More loud snowmobiles, but now even louder. Oh joy.

voodoo
03-22-2011, 12:31 PM
What happens when a 4 stroke goes upside down or rolls over? Can they keep the oil out of the cylinders? I know Polaris has a dry sump on the FST but there can be big problems on a roll over or it if goes upside down for long. Maybe Cat has it figured out.

Jeff C
03-22-2011, 02:10 PM
What happens when a 4 stroke goes upside down or rolls over? Can they keep the oil out of the cylinders? I know Polaris has a dry sump on the FST but there can be big problems on a roll over or it if goes upside down for long. Maybe Cat has it figured out.

That is a very good question......

Anyone have an answer to this one?

Turbo11T
03-22-2011, 02:21 PM
On the turbo yamaha sleds the oil runs out not into the airbox like the N/A 4 stroke would. I would not be surprised if they have the oil breather going into the intake tube. Then the oil would run into the tube if upside down. It is possible they have this fixed though with some sort of roll over switch and valve. The main thing is don't let it sit upside down for any longer than needed and make sure to wear the tether so it doesn't run upside down and wreck the motor.

Goin For Snow
03-22-2011, 02:25 PM
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263282&highlight=rolling+stroke

fredw
03-23-2011, 10:53 AM
well guys if this thing is 560lbs dry, then add another 90lbs of fluids, another 25pounds of gear, this thing is no better than the nitro pigs, a buddy just weighed his nitro and it was 642 with the mcx turbo, it was a pig in the trees to andle, and we all had to deal with the weight when he was stuck...

it was brought to his attention by a few in the pac, that he needs a lighter sled or different riding partners

etec with a turbo is a handfull at 540lbs wet with a 3 inch track on